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Do you smoke?
| Not really, but my life is so shitty that I think I might start soon. Oh no, forget it, I can't because they're FUCKING expensive. I even bought myself a pack of Marlboro Reds, but it's just been lying here on the top of my shelf unopened for a week already.
| >>967930
A pack might not seem expensive to those who don't know much about these things, but it stacks up pretty quick when you consider you never smoke one ciggy a day. I'm very lucky to be a non-smoker in a country where the %99.9 of people do. It's not easy to quit.
| >>967851
No. Shit's disgusting.
>>967930 >>967932
It is expensive, and the price is just going to go up. When my mother quit it was around $12 a pack, and she was running through some $5000 a year.
| thankfully no. i used to smoke half a pack a day from like 16-21 but kicked it cold turkey (was also poor as shit) and havent looked back.
i had a few puffs from my cousin's pall mall last week and while i sorta liked it i dont really wanna go back (esp since the cost has literally tripled here in Canada)
| weed all day every day baybayyyy
| not a quitter so i still smoke one everyday minus some im too busy for. not advising any non smokers to pick up the pack as i actually enjoy smoking and as long as you arent blowing it onto your clothes i find a slight smoky scent kinda nice + it does actually look aesthetically pleasing. i do advise to never quit tho
| Smonking is bad ok
Dont be a shonker
| I enjoy sucking on a nice cigar here and there,wish I wasn't so fucking lonely and actually had somebody to smoke with
| Switched to vaping a while ago (cheaper and doesn't fuck with my breathing) but I really liked Tiedemanns red, and I use Petterøe's original to mix into joints
| Started when I was 18 and quit in my mid 20s and stopped mixing tobacco into my joints a year or so later. Not only is the high better, so are my tastebuds.
>>968752
Is that a euphemism or something lol
| I tried vaping for a few months. The dome was fun but then i got mega suicidally depressed when laying off of it. Now that I’m on the other end of that I’m never going back - though I’ll smoke a good cigar every now and then ;)
| that nice boof after a good shmonk. aaaah :o
| Sometimes. I try not to. It's not even a big addiction or anything, sometimes I just feel like a little self harm lets out steam.
| You smoke cock
| in the usna we smoke fags
| 80% of smokers that I've met are either inconsiderate asshole who will smoke indoors; or helpless addict who can't help but to smoke if they get 5 mins of downtime in work.
Also, just like gacha whales and vtuber simps, I think smokers have no right to complain about being broke if they voluntarily spend that kind of money for unecessary stuff.
| I recently started smoking and usually take 1-2 cigs a day. At the moment my favourite brand has to be Davidoff. I usually prefer to smoke in the evening, when I've finished work and I can relax :)
| I dont smoke unless its the back half of a cigarette from someg/u/rl really really hot
| I might smoke if I had a job that let me take smoke breaks, plus girls who smell faintly of cigs make my knees weak~
| g/u/ys smoke ciggies to feel really litty
g/u/rls smoke cocks to feel like thotz
| >>967851 waste of health, money and cash. Iirc EU plans to ban tobacco sales entirely by 2040. It isn't talked a lot about as it'd cause a huge butthurt.
>>969312
Good opinion for an outsider. Change up your language and we'll treat you as one of our own.
| >>969812
If they do that's a retarded move. It's been proven time and time again throughout all of history that bans on any kinda drug, no matter how mild, just creates black markets for it. People aren't gonna stop smoking. The only difference will be that the government never sees any of the profits from the sales. It's just a loss for literally everyone and wouldn't last longer than a year max
| look at the big brain on you genious
| >>969858
I doubt there's gonna be a black market for tobacco of all things. It's simply not worth it for such a mild effect and what you're saying isn't really true either. There's tons of real drugs that doesn't have a market becaue people don't want them becaue the high sucks.
>People aren't gonna stop smoking.
People significantly stopped smoking after the tax raise, so you're wrong again.
| Nope, i prefer molotov
| Also, it's not about forcing people to stop smoking. It's about preventing the next generation from starting. New Zealand is looking at doing the same thing btw and will likely implement it before the EU.
tl;dr You're significantly mis-informed
and if you're gonna argue at least be well-read about the subject.
| >>969893
I am read up on it. I just don't take everything governments say is good and will happen as fact when my entire life has been seeing EU politicians say some shit like that and either nothing happening or whatever they're trying to "solve" getting worse lol
They were cracking down heavy on weed where I'm at a couple years ago and now there's more weed smokers than ever here. They started "preventing overdoses" in addicts and the OD rates have never been higher than now
| I've also seen how illegal shit opens up for nicotine btw, cause they've been raising prices on tobacco here for a while and vape juice containing nicotine is illegal here. The result? More and more people are just buying illegal, homemade nicotine shit for vapes from behind the counter of shady corner stores and shit. Not criminals btw. That's become normal for average citizens who smoke now. It won't solve anything
| >>969962
I'm afraid >>394f99 is quite right. Portugal legalized drugs, but what folks forget is that they also made it *mandatory* for addicts to get treatment. If you don't take the second step, you just end up giving people free reign to OD on crack. Elsewhere, Prohibition in the US accomplished nothing other than spawning a bootlegging industry.
It's all in the head. You have to *convince* addicts of the errors of their ways. But, even then... What if they tell you to get lost?
| >>970066
>What if they tell you to get lost?
Then you make them. Something like 2-5% of the population of adults is incapable of taking care of themselves at a baseline, You need to have just systems in place for taking care of those who cannot care for themselves.
| >>970076
The vast majority of places that would require major systemic change. I 100% agree it should be a thing everywhere though. Caring for fellow humans should be the default thing any society should be built on
| I have smoked like a few times. Though every time I cough like crazy and it burns the hell out of my throat. Also being around my mother who is a chronic smoker kind of made me avoid it. Knowing the lung cancer risks and just how much money she threw away on cigarettes over the years.Along with the fact that the times I have smoked. I never really got that subtle nicotine high I have heard of. Just felt like my lungs were burning and felt a disgusting texture and taste in my mouth.
| >>970066
Do they need to prove the substance addiction or do they just make anyone caught in the act go to rehab?
| >>970097
As I understand, they interview you first to see if you're addicted or not, and send you off to rehab if they think you are.
>>970076
For the record, I'm of the same opinion. Unfortunately, the reality is that most societies would need to undergo massive changes to this end, and even then, there's the issue of state capacity.
| I do, but I really regret getting into it. It's hard to stop, burns through money, and sometimes when I'm annoyed at something or stressed I smoke few cigs one after another.
| >>970066
I don't see how your counter-point is relevant at all. Those are two completely different issues with two completely different approaches. Just because you can't outlaw drugs that makes you high it doesn't mean that you can't outlaw tobacco. They're not comparable. People in general isn't smoking tobacco because of the effects. They smoke because it's addictive and readily available. Most of the effects of tobacco comes from stilling your addiction.
| People aren't gonna pay drug prices for tobacco, but that's what you need to charge to earn money in an illegal trade. No one's gonna take the risk of getting caught and potentially serving prison for chump change. The black market won't catch on.
And it's not like tobacco is gonna get 100% banned either like you two seem to believe. No matter how many times you say "I am read up on it." it doesn't make it true. You haven't even bothered to look up the basics of the basics...
| >>92f6ce
You claimed there was gonna be a ban. A ban means none. Just admit you wasn't right instead of trying to frame you saying incorrect shit as others being dumb
You also seem to not understand anything about tobacco or any sort of underground drug shit. Getting tobacco in bulk from places that have it legal would be cheap as shit, therefore prices wouldn't be insane. There are places where codeine is easy to get and cheaper than alcohol due to it being easy to buy in bulk in
| neighbouring countries. There's a lot more factors to what determines drug prices than just whether or not it's legal
Nicotine is also consumed due to calming effect. While it's weak compared to most other shit, it's still an upper, and more importantly an upper that doesn't hinder your ability to do shit and that isn't visible on you. While the insane addictiveness isn't necessarily related to the effect, that's a big reason for why it's such a popular and common drug
| Addictiveness does also play a major factor in how popular and widely sold something is. While cocaine is an extremely boring drug compared to most and doesn't really give you much aside from restlessness, the simple fact that it's addictive in the same way nicotine is makes it one of the most commonly sold drugs out there
Your knowledge of all this shit seems to come purely from government published papers and articles and nothing else. That's a weak af basis for your claims
| I liked smoking when i was a kid becuase i had people to do it around that did it with me. Hardcore punks and grindcore people and shit. I was also working at a restaurant when i started and everyone smokes at restaurants. So i could just do it there too. But time has passed and those people fade and grow up. I still smoke, but i also wish to quit and grow out of it as well. Its not fun anymore.
Withdrawl is a fucking bitch
| >>970149
Grasping for straws much? I wasn't the one that claimed it was gonna get banned, retard. That was someone else.
I didn't bother reading the rest of your comment btw.
| Simple, just calculate [Price of half pack of cig on your place] x 365 days. If you are willing to part with that kind of money, then go ahead. For me, that's more money that I spend on games yearly, so I'd rather have games.
| >>970232
You're so cool and everyone is clapping
>>970305
Trying to afford that shit as a teenager changed my view on life istg lol
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| Do you smoke cigarettes?
If yes what is your favorite brand?
Having the first cig in the morning is such a nice feel