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what exactly about suicide is wrong
| You dont need to mind about most people they eat glue
| "wrong" is social construct
In normative look it's bother medical system, emotionally damage people what are still alive etc.
| I think, sometimes problem can fix itself/ go away as times goes.
Let's say gurl A and B is a victim of severe bullying at 2 different school. Gurl A kills herself, while gurl B stays. Sometime later, covid hits and Gurl B suddenly doesn't get bullied anymore because of online class. Gurl A's problem would also disappear if she didn't kill herself.
| well it's not even necessarily wrong. it's just, generally, retarded. and not because of what others may think like suicide being "selfish" which is also a retarded thing to say.
| >>954036
how is it retarded? because is a permanent solution to a temporary problem? what if the problem is permanent? Is there a reason to persist in that case? whatever your reason, your post comes off as ignorant and it is.
| hey man. i consider suicide a lot. and i even cut myself. i just think death in general is retarded. i don't mean to seem like an asshole. i can't explain for shit.
| >>954034
if only it were that simple. girl a dies and that's the end of that story. girl b lives on but is saddled with mental issues such as depression, anxiety, and ptsd for potentially the rest of her life. It's not impossible to overcome these things however, is it even worth it? not really. Our lives have no worth. We're just the excess offspring of people from history that did have worth. it's rare for people of our generation to amount to anything or create anything of worth
| Please use me as an example. I have no one in my life. no friends or family. My job is quite easy literally anyone can do it. I do not have any hobbies all I do is work, smoke, and sleep. I do not have any skills nor do I have the motivation to learn any because I'm severely depressed. Can you honestly tell me that I have any sort of value? Do I have one reason to stay alive (that does not have to do with religion)?
| >>954044
Yes.
things can always get better. Things can change for the better. If you kill yourself, then all the pain and misery you've experienced is all you will ever have known.
There is help out there, and your life can be better than it is now.
| All I'm saying is that though I may just sound like a miserable loser, it goes beyond that. As a person I am unable to contribute anything of worth to the world simply because that is who I am. You can think of me as an npc. is there a reason for an npc that does nothing but survive to exist? In the end isn't someone like that simply just a waste? In that case why would suicide be wrong?
| >>954046
If you really wanted to die, you would have done so already, instead of seeking justification from us. Get help, there are people who care about you and would miss you, even if you can't see them.
| >>954045
>things can always get better.
according to what? who? That's just a classic cope and a cookie cutter response that's dealt out to anyone that starts questioning their self worth. same can be said about "There is help out there". I don't mean to sound like such a downer but that's simply false. an ignorant statement. what kind of help do you think there is?
| therapy and pills are working for me. haha. however for the past few months i have been more self destructive. more manic but calm at the same time.
| >>954048
I'm not seeking any justification. I just want an explanation as to why people think suicide is wrong. but you're either lost or can't be bothered because you seem to be unable to have any original thoughts as proven by the fact that your only response to any of my posts so far is "get help".
| best wishes.
| sounds like someone just needs to have some gay sex
| >>954059
>>954056
tell me your specific problems and I'll give you specific solutions.
mentally healthly and well-adjusted people don't seek permission for suicide.
that alone indicates problems, and you've already said you suffer from depression and use narcotics. There are ways to treat depression, and depending on what you are smoking that can influence your hormonal levels and effect your mood and health.
you want a pro-suicide pity party? try elsewhere.
| >>954065
nice deflection! Way to go, avoiding the discussion you want to have. And speaking of, you have been dismissive of any attempt to have a discussion.
| >>954068
you dont even know what the discussion is about. You think its about me even though it isnt. that's why I said you're either lost or can't be bothered. but now I can't be bothered because you're just an idiot that can't follow a conversation.
| Just because you don't see any meaning, happiness or future in your life at the moment does not mean those things are out of your reach. If you have no one and nothing, then why not do good and make the lives of others better instead of removing yourself from the equation?
| from your first post it was obvious what your opinion on this matter is and you were quick to start spouting needlessly optimistic and empty shit in response to my post. All I did was use myself as an example for the discussion because I fit the bill for the type of person that I was trying to protray but you accused me of seeking justification for myself and continued to tell me to get help instead of simply answering the question.
| Anyways Its clear that you have nothing of real value to say so I see no reason for this to continue bye.
| >>954081
okay, see you tomorrow. And please take the advice and get some help for your problems. Once you do, you'll answer your own question.
| >>954080
It's incredibly obvious you're only looking for yes men that already agrees with your point of view. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Chosing death for frivilous reasons is generally retarded. Even moreso if it's because of needlessly pessimistic and empty shit like "All my problems are PERMANENT and it must be true because I already know every detail about my future life, even stuff 10-15 years from now" and "it's not worth it to overcome depression and anxiety, because it just isn't okay?!?"
| I've pretty much been pro-choice in this matter, but I always advocate against suicide.
All are temporary, such is the nature of life and existence in general. That makes all problems that exist temporary as well. Life is temporary, suffering is temporary. Knowing that and not attaching oneself to anything helps with coping with much of the emotional pain that comes.
| I also believe that a person would not feel any relief in death anyway. Death is the end of consciousness, and by killing yourself you rid yourself of that. Relief will not come. In fact, nothing will. Sure, you've rid yourself of that emotional pain, but you've also rid yourself of the feeling of being free of that pain, or the feeling of being happy with life.
| The battle with depression and mental illness is grueling, arduous and is usually long. Many thoughts of suicide and its supposed "benefits" may come to mind. I frankly believe that people sometimes just try to fool themselves into believing that there is an easy way out.
Life's a bitch. But being a bitch is what makes life cool.
It's cookie-cutter, it's cliche, sure, but it's true. Most times, there is a way, and there is help.
| This textboard is not equipped to provide the necessary support for individuals in crisis. I encourage you to seek help from a qualified mental health professional or contact a crisis hotline.
https://talksuicide.ca/ has a great directory of Canadian crisis centers that anyone can go to. They also have a hotline at 1-833-456-4566, and you can text them at 45645. USA has the Crisis Hotline on 988. Both of these services will automatically ask you some brief questions and then connect you to a trained crisis responder. These resources can offer you better support and guidance during a challenging time. From one g/u/rl to another, I care about your safety and well-being and want you to receive the best possible help, which is not something Danger/u/ has to offer. Please take care of yourself.
| >>6fb151 for people like you who have no friend, no family, no hobby, and then trash all support/reason to live under the shade of "Muh depression" then sure, go do it. Nothing is bad about killing yourself when you don't even want to entertain a simple idea like finding a hobby.
| This is coming from a fairly negative person who experienced depression for years. Plenty of books, movie, games managed to distract me from my depression, a small percentage if them makes living worth just to experience more of it. Not to mention sport to do/watch, language/skill to learn. Depression didn't decrease the value of these activities, if anything, it enchances it.
| It probably has bad implications for society if it's normalized. Some countries allow it but there's still disagreement.
Like if you have that Neuro toxin pain shit that makes you feel like a doom level 24/7 then please take the shotty.
Just my opinion, But depression and sui is often a responsibility of the society around it so doing sui is a tacit indictment of the people around you so people big mad.
you cant press Ctrl z and your a novelty machine so it's safe to keep playin
| >>954242
we are. Take a look at human history; those who advocate for kindness, compassion, understanding and to love one another are the outsiders.
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| Why are most people convinced that suicide is something bad.