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Ask a vtuber anything!
| Getting bred stream when?
| Does it hard for you to stream almost everyday?
| Why are you gay?
| Pomu collab when?
| Well what is your name?
| why aren't you pomu?
| Why are you pomu?
| Why do you pomu?
| Why do pomu?
| No Pomu?
| Pomu
| >>851508
Depends on the vidya, but almost never since I haven't started as a lewdtuber. ^^
>>851510
I tried out streaming everyday of the week! But most people don't, and although I managed it, I want some time to myself. I just made a schedule of running the show four times a week for around 3 hours or so, which is like, slightly less than part time hours. ^^ Much more manageable.
>>851511
Why not?
>>851516
Lmao I don't know if I'd ever be able to collab with someone that lorge. It'd be insane.
>>851517
I might out myself later in the thread, but i'll be keep that a secret for now. ;) All i'll say is that i'm one of the maids, and yes the other maids are aware.
>>851535
It's suspected that Pomu was an indietuber before she joined Nijisanji, and I don't really want to join a big group lmao.
>>851542
I'm not tho. ;w;
>>851563
Because its fun!
>>851574
Because puffing a rainpuff could be comfy?
>>851590
Alas I am a maidenless lass.
>>851591
Indeed.
| Maidtuber you say?! Do you have a maid avatar?
| Why do male meatflesh streamers pull bigger numbers than female meatflesh streamers, but male virtual streamers pull less than female virtual streamers? I've even seen guys use girl Live2d avatars just for the viewership. Fascinating stuff.
| >>851616 Because all except male virtual streamer target primarily boys. I don't know why but girls are more productive on the internet, as in making memes instead of primarily consuming them like boys do. Maybe girls are more creative? This needs to be a thesis.
| >>851616
Based on what i've seen so far on Twitch (and this is strictly just my opinion, I haven't done any actual sociological research into that phenomenon) is that it largely has to do with implicit sexism and bias. Despite vidya being around for a few decades now, it's still largely seen as a "male centric" hobby, so I assume more people are interested in watching male meat streamers play vidya (like Ninja) while most of the people who watch female gaymers are mostly watching them for the booba.
That kinda sucks for the girl gamers who just like video games of course, but it's probably one of the few doublestandards i've seen in favor of guys. Then again, arguably there are so many guys playing video games online that the chances of you popping off without an interesting personality (or a personality at all, really- there's a niche for almost everything) makes it more difficult.
The reverse is true for vtubers though, because in the weeb space, I've generally seen that more people are interested in uguuuuu moe kawaiii waifus (at least in the english speaking world) than le husbando bishonen boitoys and, of course, femboy uwuuu shotas. But although that is the case, male tubers are by no means "unpopular." Both major vtuber corps Hololive and Nijisanji have their own stables of male vtubers who specifically cater to the sizable female audience, and there's plenty of successful Male vtubers (independent) to go around. A few that come to mind immediately include Bungo Taiga (angelic dog femboy) and others covered through the male ENVtuber journalist, FalseEyeD.
| I don't think i've met a guy using a female avatar who wasn't bisexual, trans, or a femboy though. The same goes for the reverse- I've never seen a woman use a male avatar "just because."
On a side note, voice changers aren't nearly as good as the meme claims, at best it will just slightly heighten or lower your current voice but is only truly effective if your voice is going in that direction anyway- which means that voice training is still necessary to get the desired effect without sounding like a robot. A surprising number of vtubers don't bother anymore, because the number of people who are actually turned off by "le le voice no match avatar tranny scum" are actually pretty low.
| How to get a following starting from nothing? Kinda wanna try.
| >>851647
There's really no easier way than forcing yourself to interact with the larger communities found on Twitter. Over time you learn the hashtags people use (#envtuber, #vtuberuprising, etc) and in the beginning, you'll be looking at other vtubers and following a few people you mesh with, some of whom might follow you in return. There will be people who offer everything from free assets to opportunities to network with others, often by encouraging you to post an image of your avatar and to drop your links.
As you get more settled in the community, it'll be easier to determine what kind of people you'd like to hang out with/learn more about and you may be encouraged to interact with them via discord or join each other's twitch streams. Although eventualllly, in the far future, if you're running 50+ or 100+ people viewing at a time, it'll be impractical to interact with everyone on such an intimate level, when you're starting out you'll essentially be making a friend group that you can mutually piggy back off of for followers.
For example, if you're a twitch streamer, you can "raid" people which is to visit other people's streams while bringing along your own followers to share and introduce them. It's good etiquette to acknowledge being raided and to encourage your own viewers to check the raiding party out. Doing this sort of thing endears you to the vtuber you're visiting, and they're more likely to remember you any time they want to do something with a group of people- from collabs to just remembering where to drop their followers off when they're done streaming for the day.
My start as a vtuber was a lot easier than some because my initial followers were friends from danger/u/, and I had some help with asset creation from other content creators who were either themselves vtubers or vtuber enthusiasts. What solidified my consistent growth was setting up a consistent schedule and continuing to be active on twitter- you want to be someone who's a constant presence online, as well as approachable. The kind of person that may pop up in common conversation, even.
"Hmm, I want to do a mega collab with people to celebrate my milestone this weekend. Who should we ask join up?"
"What about such and such? I remember when they brought over a few friends for a stream and I haven't paid them back yet. They're pretty chill."
This has been my current experience so far, and your mileage may still vary.
| can we have your twitch link?
| >>851723 It's called Janitorial Privilege. You will gain it after getting to lv 500 in the master-tier of the Custodial Arts skill tree, and then talking to the Lain npc in a certain secret map which you can unlock. Just look at this walk through for the details https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H01BwSD9eyQ
| >>851448
I am obviously going to have to ask for what your vtuber characters name is or a link so I can start watching.
:›
| We need to be able to lewd maid outside of /u/ too
| >>851659 >>851878 >>851915
u wu Y'all are sweet.
If you're seriously interested, my twitch is twitch.tv/lulztime. I stream on Monday Wednesday Friday, and also Saturday mornings. uw u Feel free to follow, and see y'all around!
| >>851647
Don't.
If you want to stream you first do shit elsewhere (YouTube, eSports, become a mod & a meme in some other huge 20k+ viewers channel, Pornhub, etc.) and THEN you plug your twitch and slowly transform into a streamer confident you will get at least 200 concurrent viewers.
I've been streaming for nearly 14 months and averaged ~20 viewers avg per stream around the time Lost Ark EU release happened, then got burnt out and also half my viewership died due to Ukraine.
| >>852017
This shit is very ungrateful if you start without the following and kinda ruins your life. I started it due to quarantine and at the end of it (dropped streaming like a month ago) I am:
- Tad bit overweight 198 cm to 140 kilos, hitting the gym today though since now I have time for shit without streams.
- Ruined my relationship since I had less time for my gf. There were other reasons too but fuck me they could all have been avoided if I was spending more time with her.
| >>852018
Mind you it is also financially heavy, you need a decent PC, consoles, games, cam, mic, lighting, some one-time shit for streams. I streamed for nearly 2300 hours and got back around ~300-400 euro from it. I could have made six fucking YouTube channels in that timeframe.
The fag above has been at it for half a year and averages 6 viewers per stream while cheating with a vtube model.
Don't do it g/u/rl, spend your time move wisely.
You will regret it.
| How big are you haha
| >>852019 hoes mad. Some people do this stuff for fun, ya know? It's a hobby. Not everything's about money, g/u/rl. It's like playing video games and chatting with friends. ( ^.^')
| >>852019
Honestly, I wanted to do it partly as a way to keep myself accountable with my drawing. If I have a set time, with people watching, it would keep me more on track. That's the idea, anyways.
| >>852061
That's... very simple to do honestly. You don't need a mega setup for something like that, and a growing number of vtubers are running very affordable rigs for that kind of stream. Don't even need a webcam if you just want to draw your own avatar (a plus!) and fire up a pngtuber service like discord reactive images or Veadotube to animate it anytime you speak.
Voila, you're a vtuber, g/u/rl. If you haven't yet I also suggest getting a Picarto account- very popular smol place for artists to stream themselves drawing. They even watch/stream animu while doing so.
| >>851633 I still do an internal double take whenever I see a genuine girl gamer irl, but I don't think the twitch thing has anything to do with sexism. All it is, is that the more out there you are, the more exposure you get. Men can overreact or do stupid stuff to be 'funny', while women just need to focus on being sexual. People who are more 'chill' don't tend to get much traction.
| This still happens with vtuber, where a lot of the indies that blow up do the 'kawaii ugu owo whats this' act a lot. It's very annoying at first since I thought vtubers couldn't escape that exposure mentality normal streamers have, but agencies really saved that by doing the marketing for them while the talents do other things. Sadly, most corporates are on YouTube. Most twitch users I know of only see vtubers for their softcore porn act, which is no different to booba streamers :/
| >>852019 you sound bitter lmao. 20 viewers is p good, def not just your friends watching you. this stuff just isn't for everyone though. as much as a lot of streamers say they're introverts, you have to enjoy putting yourself out there to really keep going.
also, you call someone else a day for using an avatar instead of having to pay for good cams and lighting, but a good avatar can easily go for over 1k, if they want to stand out. fuck outta here with your shit takes
| r u happy to do this ？
In fact, I have a great prejudice against virtual anchors.I think this kind of behavior is similar to cheating something
| Your name please I wanna watch you g/u/rl
| >>852116
^^;; To be honest I look forward to streaming just about every day that I scheduled myself to. The only exception is when I don't have anything planned, which creates an awkwardness because you can only go so far with looking cute on a blank screen, and there's a lot of truth to streaming something you actually enjoy rather than "what's trendy."
Which is why we're putting Bob Ross on again this Saturday and seeing how things turn out. I've always wanted to follow along with one of his shows and I've learned to do that using Krita as opposed to a real pain and canvas, and the last time I did this on stream seemed to be a comfy experience for myself and everyone who tuned in.
I understand why people have a prejudice against vtubers, but as far as "what's more difficult," I'd say that they're roughly the same- the amount of effort, time, and money you put into either being a fleshtuber or a vtuber often equates (but does not guarantee) the quality of your show. Whether that be getting a decent quality mic, shaving and putting on makeup, or commissioning a high end Live 2D model with decent tracking and multiple layers. Then again, all of this is kind of for naught if you're not an interesting person on top of that, or do things to interest people. It was kind of thrilling to see people move away from just doing vidya, karaoke, and typical idol stuffs- so far I've seen-
Cooking vtubers who use green screens to work at a kitchen table while their virtual avatar overlays where their body would be,
People building legos on stream,
Numerous talk shows that mimic or parody episodes of Eric Andre or Dr. Phil or Space Ghost,
VRChat tubers who go to clubs or play horror games,
and streams of people creating new vtuber avatars. Some streams are even decidedly a lot lower powered, like just reading books ASMR style. Almost everyone also has some form of interactivity that you can activate with channel points- my own avatar becomes increasingly glitchier and glitchier as I receive bits, and I've been killed on stream more times than I can count by thrown objects.
I'd also like to point out something here- I don't do vtubing as my main job, and I don't suggest that anyone get into this hobby simply to get money, because just like every other artform (drawing lewds, making music, youtube videos, etc) you're going to very quickly hate yourself and struggle to make ends meet. Going "big" has always been a matter of RNG and all you can do is enjoy what you're doing and improve things to increase the chances of going big. I made enough money to get my first twitch disbursement a month ago or so and I'm still stupidly happy/thankful that I got paid for doing something I enjoy for once, but I can't even imagine what life would be like if I started making hands over fist enough to quit my "real" job working from home in the healthcare industry. So I don't think about it.
But if you just want to transform yourself into a chinese cartoon online? It's never been easier- and there's lots of free resources created by vtubers themselves to help others achieve their dreams of becoming Pomu Rainpuff.
| Pomu?!
| Is that also you on Yt btw? I've always been more of a vod watcher, so I dont frequent twitch because it keeps deleting streams I want to go back to.
| >>852142
Mhm! I post my VOD's there mostly. I'm thinking about posting highlights and clips there too, but youtube's organization leaves much to be desired and everything is kind of a big jumble at the moment.
| >>852108
yo fuck off bud I know more about vtube models and rigs than you are in fact I even own one shittier 500 bucks model of my oc for lulz Good avatars start at 1.5k+
I'm bitter yes since Ive lost like a year of my life doing jackshit, but it's more of a realisation now that this is a waste of time like setting a rock band in the 90s.
Also you missed the point on avatar usage - it was about that vtubing is like viewbotting, it almost doubles the stats, not that it's cheap lol
| >>852058
It is a hobby and a very ungrateful one. Haven't tried to say anything more than that.
You also lose your enjoyment from vidya cuz of it (and streaming is NOT the same as playing games with friends). It wasn't about money for me either, I just want to dispel all the fake positivity around this stuff by people who never tried/never got deep into it.
This shit is hard and unforgiving, it does pay back with positive emotions but I deemed it was not worth it at the end.
| >>852317 vtubers are still a pretty novel thing, so I expect them to continue pulling in more numbers to regular streamers for a while. If the trend is consistent though, then it might be interesting to look into the why, but I feel it's just more appealing to weebs.
| How do you feel about the fact that the Japanese have been able to commercialize simulated relationships as a substitute for real ones.
Do you see this as having any positive or negative effects and how do you feel about your own personal contributions to it?
Does performing with an online persona tax your mental well being?
Also have you played needy streamer simulator?
| >>852843
>How do you feel about the fact that the Japanese have been able to commercialize simulated relationships as a substitute for real ones.
They're pretty much ahead of the curve! The "west" is catching up to some extent with the rise of VR but in my opinion, the innumerable hookup sites (Tinder, OkCupid et al) aren't very different in the sense of selling you what often amount to being very shallow, disposable dates- with the exception of trading your imagination & your hand for real flesh & potential STD's/psychos.
The differences are obvious, though. Although I haven't done much research into this area, it's not difficult to see how fictional relationships have probably contributed to Japan's negative birth rate and social difficulties. *shrug*
>Do you see this as having any positive or negative effects and how do you feel about your own personal contributions to it?
Not really. Admittedly before I started vtubing my assumptions toward vtubing (and streaming, youtubing, all modern forms of internet based entertainment) were that it was more "performative" and focused on selling you a very curated, very sanitized experience, just like cable tv. What I've found instead is that this is actually a chiefly Hololive phenomenon, since they're literally a company based around virtual "idols." Notably, their direct competitors Nijisanji, Vshojo, and many smaller companies either go in a different direction entirely or dispense with this concept, searching out other niches to capture. The next largest niche are the "lewdtubers" obviously, but that's nothing new.
I preface with that because I find that the average vtuber, at least those below the 100,000 follower range on twitch and twitter, is more akin to joining a large discord voice call and shitposting with whomever's hosting a video at that time, except that only one person has a mic on usually. This is the "style" of streaming that I preferred back when I was active on the danger/u/ discord, and still the kind of "comfiness" that I prefer on twitch. I find that outside of the parasocial-problems that people bring up all the time with regard to mentally ill behavior toward larger vtubers (twitter has *many* examples) most ENVtubers, who aren't anywhere near this range of popularity, don't... have as much of a problem? I was honestly shocked when I first started vtubing to see "big vtubers" who had anywhere from 100 to 500+ viewers at any one time actively chatting and replying and recognizing their followers in chat.
I presume that's because their followers aren't so numerous yet as to become effectively anonymous, and I echo a few of my peers sentiments where it'd be a sad day when there's too many people to be able to greet personally one at a time.
So, to get back to your original question- I don't think I'm "contributing to a problem," at this time- at least, not anymore than I did on Discord. I, and many others, are literally too small to make some kind of major societal dent. That being said, I tend to avoid vtubers who, despite not being "mega popular" themselves, treat themselves like they are and tend to treat their viewers with disdain (unless they're raking in fat stacks of bits and subs). Most people would find this shit disgusting in a tiny discord community, so why accept it in a "public" community?
>Does performing with an online persona tax your mental well being?
Not at all! To me, this isn't all that much different from going around online with a handle and a weebshit avatar. I've been doing this for years, at least outside of the hellscape that is facebook (and deviantArt for that matter). While I did have reservations about how "open" I was at first, I've generally found it easier to mix fiction and reality in about 40%/60% so that I didn't have to be "acting" all the time, but instead was "acting" in the sense of showing a face/personality I was comfortable with.
Let me explain. Everyone has a "face" or a "mask" that they use and very few people actually act the same way in every situation and with every person they meet. You might curse like a pirate with friends and come off as super bigoted when anyone who doesn't care is in earshot, but as soon as you log out and go outside, you're probably less likely to call everyone a gay retard faggot autist cocksucker. Does this make you a "different" person online and offline? Yes and no. Yes, in the sense that you censor yourself in one area and not in the next. No, because just because you use certain language doesn't mean that you're that kind of person.
It's arguably not too different from being able to separate fiction from reality with regard to entertainment, whether it be porn or video games. There's plenty of discourse on this in the vtuber spaces, with some people creating avatars that are supposed to be a "real world representation of themselves" (except when its inconvenient, like when they get called out for being a shitty person and have to fall back on ITS ONLY A MASK LOLOLOLOLOLOL) while others still view the avatar as an ideal or form of escapism, and accept that. No one in their right mind would believe that the absolute gremlin mouse creature singing Never Gonna Give You Up on their screen is what they *actually* are, and if you do, that's your problem. And if you actually believe you're some kind of otherkin loli vampire furry from the pokemon dimension who is simultaneously the love child of Ash and Gary Oak, well... you get the point. ;P
Oh man though, I have seen plenty of vtubers claim that streaming is fatiguing for them, and I often wonder just what part of it tires them out. Setting up the streaming stuff? Playing a video game for several hours at a time? Forcing themselves to be a certain personality? (Believe it or not, uwuuu owo so cuddly personalities, while common, aren't all there is- personally the vtubers who place a little too much emphasis on being edgy as assholish as hell are so much worse and barely tolerable.) For me, I'm no longer used to playing games for several hours, and typically start to burn out after four or so. That's why my streams are also usually around 3 hours long. I have stuff to do, lmao.
>Also have you played needy streamer simulator?
Yes! I streamed it a month or so ago, when it first came out. I honestly enjoyed it thoroughly and played a few rounds to get a few endings, although I haven't reached the "true ending" yet. I decided to stop streaming it for awhile, however, after I allowed KANGEL's stress level to get too high, and, uh... there was a certain mini game that you can't skip, which kinda fucks me up.
...
:pray: BLESS :pray:
Thanks for the questions! Sorry for the TLDR, I'm a writer by trade and I actually find a lot of this industry fascinating. ^^
As a side note- supposedly the writer of Needy Streamer Overdose is themself a former streamer and/or vtuber. If true, it would explain why the game is mostly accurate about what happens, all the way down to the deranged fans.
| how the fuck do you longpost
| >>852990 found the g/u/rl who doesn't have danger/u/ pass
or the longposting might just be maid privilege
| >>852928 seeing it as you being the sole mic user in a discord VC is a very healthy way of looking at what you're doing. A lot of people who try to stream do it with a sort of end goal in mind, instead of doing it because they just like it. Generally, I think the stress comes with trying to entertain your 'audience'.
| Do you follow the weeb vtuber traditions? (having debut stream, choosing oshi mark, fan name, having absurd age, lore video, wear gloves, and kiss Kizuna Ai in the lips before each stream)
| >>853425
I never had a "debut" stream! I was kind of skeptical of the effectiveness of one and just wanted to jump into streaming as soon as I could. Overtime I started fine tuning some stuff with the help of friends, like having a cleaned up about section with proper panels, a streambot to auto ping people in discord, et cetera.
I have no idea what an "oshi" mark is, but i'm assuming its some icon that represents a vtuber? Apparently people really liked the stock tie I put on my avatar, so its sort of become my "symbol." I drew it under that section in the vtuber info card I filled out during this morning's stream, which you can see here:
https://twitter.com/lawlznet/status/1515377507935170563
We do have a fan name though- my first followers from /u/ voted on the name "lullies" xP
Since ah'm an AI, ah guess my "absurd age" is like in the single digits?
Ah haven't made a lore video yet, but that's in part because ah also developed the lore over the course of my career. At the moment it integrates danger/u/ a bit and is essentially "An AI came to life from the accumulated shitposting on an obscure BBS textboard, and promptly escaped to terrorize the grim darkness of 207X."
>Wear gloves.
...You know, now that you mention it... I never noticed that about vtubers, huh? Gawr Gura doesn't wear them, at least.
>Kizuna AI
Pfft, I remember when she was first created. A shame that she's retired now, but she had a good run.
| >>853473
oshi mark is an emoji that people can use to show their loyalty, but I don't know how many people take it seriously. I heard a nijisanji vtuber first came up with it and it sorta became a thing.
vtuber wear gloves because japanese fans/haters are maximum autismo, so they fear someone will find out their identity from a scar or wrinkle. EN vtubers probably don't care, but I've seen Indonesian vtubers do it.
Huh, I didn't know Ai retired, I thought she was on break..
| >>853588
Lol, that's what an oshi mark is? First I've heard of it, but I don't really follow Nijisanji so that's probably why. ^^;;
The gloves thing totally makes sense, but i'm not too concerned about someone triangulating my coordinates from my tiny, effeminite hands. ^-^
Kizuna AI is more or less retired, though- even though they called it "indefinite hiatus."
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-12-04/vtuber-kizuna-ai-goes-on-indefinite-hiatus-next-february/.180284
| Who are your favorite vtubers?
What do you think of /vt/?
| Will you wear Pomu cosplay anytime soon? pleasedopleasedopleasedo
| >>854322
Most of my favorite vtubers are smoltubers who have followings numbering in the thousands, or my fellow ENVtubers who have followers in the hundreds, as opposed to millions like Hololive does. ^^;; Among the big ones that I enjoy, I'm a proud Gurashrimp, but I rarely watch her streams since they're on youtube (also jesus they're long). The largest vtuber I watch consistently is OniGiri, the cooking oni, because she's still able to be and is enthusiastic about interacting with her fans in chat (without having to sub or use bits).
Among the smoller still tubers, those who have anywhere between 20 and 200 viewers at any given moment, I follow some of the femboy tubers such as Bungo Taiga, ADC, ILULU and IR0NJEW. Iron in particular is pretty down to earth and has a relaxed discord community that they play vidya with on occasion.
>What do you think of /vt/?
Lol. Lmao.
I haven't been active on 4chan since the old-old days, but there's a cancerous part of me that is somewhat happy that nothing has really changed. I mostly view /vt/ posts through the lens of submissions to @Vtubercringe, @bannedvtmemes, and @vt_kek , and... yeah, people there are completely unhinged.
Or at least pretend to be. Even in early 2000's era 4chan we all kinda knew that some threads were intentionally cancerous to get attention. And I don't mean bait- that would suggest that OP had more than one braincell in their head to be obnoxious on purpose. :P
>>854324
Not anytime soon, I'm afraid. If I find a copy of the outfit on booth I might wear it one day as an inside joke for those of you who followed me on Twitch. You know who you are, and I think I already said this during one of last week's streams, but thank you so much. <3
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| I've been vtubing since November 2021. I'm a femboy vtuber and a large portion of my initial followers were from danger/u/. Next month is my 6 month anniversary!