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The issue I have with claims of 'trans vibes'
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having doubts about your sexuality (just examples) are exclusive to a particular gender or orientation, you backhand deny those same feelings or emotions validity to the majority of humanity.
Nothing is an exclusively trans, exclusively cis, or exclusively male/female experience.
It's *all* just a human experience.
| Ok but if a character is giving off gay vibes they are gay in my headcanon and you can go suck a lemon
jokes aside, as long as they don't take personal offense and started harassing the author when it's revealed that character X is in fact straight and cis who cares. no one likes a thought police
| >>841385
It matters because when people (of any orientation, or really any side of any conflict) start believing that their experiences aren't relatable to others, they stop trying. And that leads to considering one side or the other as 'not human' at least subconsciously.
| Bruh. You're overthinking it. I'm no trans but I have ADHD, and I see people post literally normal things calling them "ADHD vibe" or "just autism things" and never once it crossed my mind "damn these people don't consider neurotypical as humans". It's a bit annoying but I would damn do the same thing if I have friends with ADHD for sure. Sounds like you took a message meant for a specific circle of people out of context tbh.
| It is when you stop being a cuck that you realize you just hate trannies and that makes you normal.
| this thread gives off forklift driver vibes
| This sort of thing is basically the typical attitude of faggots who are so uninteresting that they make their entire personality revolve around the fact that they like to be fucked in the ass.
| >>841394
so the same way people do it with AdHD, they also do it with depression and anxiety. As if suffering from these things was super cool. This is clearly a sign that the person needs to produce stories to meet the need for attention due to lack of personality.
| Agree with op but something to think about: adding a label is an easy way to keep suburban soccer moms from hijacking your experience
| https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JHRzQwb-EGQ
| You're making a big deal put of nothing OP. Queers, and especially trans and non-binary people get very, very little representation, and the few times they do it's usually some dunb stereotype that's more harmful than anything.
So when there are characters that have traits or whatever that are very relatable to queers, then having that headcannon or whatever is comforting.
Nobody thinks those experiences are exclusive. It's just a comfort thing due to lack of good representation.
| Cis people, straight people, none of y'all are under represented. So these things aren't a threat to you in any way. People who say stuff like that know that it's just headcannon and it's just for fun, and so do you, right?
So, don't make a big deal out of it. It doesn't harm you or anyone else.
| A lot of it derives of untreated mental illness, notice how a lot of them will bring up “ADHD” and the like. But I agree with you OP, they end up turning inclusivity into exclusivity by attacking “cis” people to make themselves feel better or more important than they really are.
| >>841434
>zogbots
God, just go outside for like 12 seconds of your life, I'm begging you. That person you replied to is 200% right. sure, there's also people who are annoying about it, but that's true for all opinions about anything. People like seeing themselves in relateable characters, so they make headcanons. Nothing more to it than that. All the more when so much big media canon representation is done so awfully, pandering so misguided it's painful
| >>841467
It's just bait and samefagging. I appreciate the thought, but don't reply. They won't listen.
| >>841408
You mean that's just how socializing works? People will make anything about themselves cool, like, you are born with a condition you won't survive with saying "oh I'm so lame don't date me". Oh wait, that's basically what you're saying.
Well, if you have tips on how to make ADHD sounds genuinely cool we welcome your ideas.
| https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Zogbot
Who thinks of these retarded slang terms. The rent free meme is so real.
| >>841475
Is socializing for you bragging about your mental and personal problems? If so then go see a fucking psychologist.
| If you make things up to look nice to others, that's your problem. Don't try to say that other people act like this normally just to feel normal
| >>be7631
"how to make AdhD look cool" that sentence alone shows how stupid you are. fuck you if you have ADHD this is YOUR problem and no one is obligated to deal with it
| >>841542
This.
Don't define yourself by your problems. Don't define yourself by one or two generic labels at all. When you do that, you self-isolate.
It's *all* a human experience, not a "queer-specific" or "purely a ADHD" thing.
People do understand what you're feeling and going through. They just might not care. But pretending it's exclusive to a small slice of humanity is the same as saying, "oh, you're black? You couldn't be smart enough to understand"
| You deny the vast majority their rights and feelings when you claim something is an indicator of a certain orientation.
You are capable or relating to people without them being queen or trans, or cis. Or whatever identifier you want to use.
People are people are people. Their cultural values may be different, but they're never so alien you can't find similarities without forcing your own existence onto them.
| >>841431
in any shit fiction these days you can't see two friends hugging without some idiot trying to insinuate a gay relationship. This is not seeing representation of oneself but the need to fill the void with labels that no one gives a damn about.
| >>841582 lay off, drama queen. It wasn't very long ago that in media being gay was a trait exclusively reserved for villains, butt-monkeys for derisive humor, or the character who dies first as an implied punishment for their sin of being gay. It's not insane for people to want to see media that depicts people with their shared traits in an actually prominent and positive, non-tragic light.
| >>841582 your rant is full of points that are on paper correct in a vacuum but fall apart when put in historical media context and the fact that it's very reminiscent of arguing points made by people who don't have to look very hard at all to find popular media depicting people very similar to them as protagonists.
| Like another post earlier said, nobody thinks that various traits are "exclusive" to queer people and pretending that's what is being argued here is incredibly disingenuous.
| >>841588 responds to "here's why I care" with "nobody cares". based and actual fucking idiot pilled.
| I fucked your mouth.
-Sincerely, Mouthfucking g/u/rl.
| Elona
| >>841614
You are stupid or retarded for not being able to interpret a simple comment. At no time did I say I cared or not. When I said that no one cares that you have ADHD, it was clear that what I meant is that this is not important information for random people who don't know you, or are just getting to know you.
| Like the guy upstairs who asked me "how to make ADHD look cool" Fuck and where did you get the idea that this is supposed to be cool? Is your personality so empty that every aspect of you has to revolve around your psychological issues, or your sexuality?
| That's the point, the question here is not about feeling represented, but about this harmful need to fill the void in your personality with something banal like sexuality, or something serious that sometimes you don't even know if you have as a psychological problem. .
| Now if you think it's normal to be a person who does everything based on the idea of being a fag or supposedly having a mental problem, fuck it, I feel sorry for those who live with you
| >>841694
you wrote:
fill the void with labels that >no one gives a damn about
once again: based and actual fucking idiot pilled
| >>841714
"When I said that no one cares that you have ADHD, it was clear that what I meant is that this is not important information for random people who don't know you, or are just getting to know you."
Cant you read?
And man what need do you have for people to care that you're gay or have mental problems? what the fuck
| I bet your dad regrets not going to buy cigarettes when you were born
"Based pilled"
Fuck, besides not being able to understand a simple comment, you still use this vocabulary worthy of a Reddit user. Sheeesh
| >>841725
>man what need do you have for people to care that you're gay or have mental problems?
like i said, it's in the post you replied to first. yet you say I don't understand what I'm reading. curious!
| Still doesn't explain to me why it has to be "that character is relatable to me & must therefore be trans" instead of "that character is relatable to me, neat." Or "that character is relatable to me, and a lot of other people feel that way too. Maybe I'm not as different as I thought."
| >>841888 why are the second two even preferable to you? you say that saying the first thing>backhandedly denies those same feelings or emotions validity to the majority of humanity
but why should being like a character who people think is trans actually deny you from feeling like them?
why don't YOU just say "oh, this character is relatable to me, and a lot of trans people feel this way too. maybe I'm not as different from these trans people as I thought?"
| now it's not like it's unreasonable for you to be uncomfortable when it feels like a character is being taken away by that comparison. but trying to take that character back by saying "why can't they just be default?" is a way of passing your uncomfortableness back to someone else. usually someone who already has to deal with a lot of bullshit you don't.
| >>841912 >>841914
Ong though. Literally saying "people should be able to relate to every character since humans are humans" but also saying "if someone says they feel like that character is trans then they're taking away the relatability from normal people and ruining it" is the most reatarded logic.
What are you implying here? That trans people aren't humans? I'm genuinely curious. Why does the trans label stop you from relating when it's so easy to relate to other humans.
| >>841914 >>841988
Because the trans label, like *every* other gender/sexuality label is designed to create inclusivity through exclusivity. Stop fucking applying it to things in an attempt to 'claims them. If you didn't create it, you don't have the right to impose your view of it onto the world.
You want trans characters? Make your own game or show with them in it then. Stop coopting other artists' works with your own worldview. It's selfish.
| >>841997
Jill was never stated to be cis, or implied to be cis, and was written by a trans person. Are you not only saying she's not trans because it's a default? Are you not being selfish trying to keep one more specific character? Are you not pushing your worldview on trans people simply because you feel like they're a weird minority?
| I really don't get how hard it is for some people to just ignore others' headcanons. I understand even less people who expend energy and a portion of their finite time on this earth getting mad at others for theirs and trying to demand that they don't think about fictional characters in a specific way
| Gror
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| >>842035 IronicLark is nonbinary, not trans. These are not the same thing. Furthermore, they only came out as nonbinary recently, years after the game was originally written.
| This garbage is why we should abolish gender
Sex is the only thing thats real in this shit ass story :L
| >>842072
Non-binary is by definition trans as trans is an umbrella term for everyone who's gender identity does not match what they were assigned at birth.
So, well, non-binary is not different from trans. It's trans.
So I get what you're saying, but it's incorrect.
And for the second part, coming out is unrelated to when you knew. I've known my whole life, but only came out last year.
Obviously idk the writers intentions. Only they do. But you're factually incorrect with this.
| Every day I hate trannies a little bit more
| >>842072 my bad. I only wrote that because it was previously said in the other thread. but anyways I do agree with everything>>f144fa said.
| >>842080
I don't hate trans gender folks.
I just hate these trash human beings who insist that minority opinions & views must be accepted by the majority. They're unrelated subjects, and I refuse to mistake correlation for causation just because a loud minority of the trans community insist on being validated in public.
| Let's remember that in the end, fag opinions don't matter. So like the little buddy up there said, so what if they think such a character is gay. That's the closest fags can come to having a decent relationship.
| by the way i love to fuck a transvestite every now and then, but that doesn't mean i think he should have rights
| im spitting facts yooo
| 4chan moment amirite?
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| I've been stewing on this for a while. I don't consider myself a transphobe, or a homophobe, but I get unduly annoyed when people insist a character is trans or gay because of emotions or 'vibes' they give off.
And I figured out that the reason this sort of stuff annoys me is because it makes some rather poor assumptions.
Emotions, doubts, & feelings aren't exclusive to any particular orientation or gender. By claiming that things like feeling uncomfortable in your skin or >