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How is everyone not seeing anything wrong with living?
| The only alternative is nothingness. I won’t deny most people get dealt a shit hand. If you’re in the first world you’ve got a decent shot sure, but that’s at the expense of so many people across the globe. But what else are you gonna do? Kill yourself? You could, but then that’s it, goodbye don’t pass go or collect $200. We go on cause we have to and our lizard brains have too much self-preservation built in, even if everything is stacked against us and everything is shit.
| I don't know if you realize this, OP, but what you're saying sounds mildly genocidal or at least the beginning of a line of thought that will lead to destructive nihilism. Life is suffering, no doubt. If you want to find peace, it's necessary for you to do your absolute best to minimize the suffering, if even a hair. Within that fierce pursuit, you will either discover the antidote to a poisonous apathy or you will perish. Worth is decided by the individual. What do you value, OP?
| lifes a hell, deaths a bitch
with all these fubar rulers getting rich
| Let's is pointless, let's be selfish ^^
| Thank goodness there is suffering. Because then you have something to fight against and a reason to make yourself better. If there was no such thing there would be about as much meaning in life as in death.
Do not wish for suffering to end.
Wish to become strong enough to bear it. And to rise above it in the end.
Then you will be free.
| >>840067
I don't think suffering is a good thing, period. The fact that you're "coping" by justifying it demonstrates my point that Life is one abusive seducer.
| >>64f953
I'm following and agreeing with you until about halfway when you started with the dramatization. I don't know where you got "nihilism", or "apathy", when the whole point is to question why people don't care *more*. I mean, you do understand that happiness costs resource that comes from somewhere. We can't save everyone. Normalizing "quitting" is therefore less apathetic than what we're doing right now, which is turning a blind eye, or even condemning the "unsavable".
| I just realized there were 2 different people and now I felt dumb.
| >>2ba64e
At the very least we could let the most unfortunate to take the easy way out, and make more people be more careful about bringing life into this world. This comment would make less sense in countries where assisted suicide is legal, and family planning is a norm.
| > The only alternative is nothingness.
Have you ever been down with a terrible illness like fever or other things that prevents you from falling asleep?
Falling asleep = nothingness is the only thing you crave the most when that happens.
But if the pain resumes when you wake up, what else would you desire but even more nothingness?
Just as not everyone gets the short end of the stick, nothingness isn't such a bad alternative all the time.
| >>840072
And you can believe what you want. But at the end of the day, you feel like shit and want to die, while I mostly rose above that.
It's better to laugh than to cry.
You care a lot about what society thinks, don't you? Society doesn't really care. And do you know what coping means? I'm doing the opposite of coping. I'm taking pain head on while you want to flee from it.
>>840089
I desire that my body becomes stronger that it is able to beat the sickness and overcome it.
| I think it's a great occasion to apologize to all the tweens and kids who stumble across this thread. I got impassioned and went a bit far. It's okay, life is bearable for a veeeery long time. ^^'
| >>840090
Calling out "Society" is a cop out. Things can start small, just need likeminded people to gather in the same spot. I don't think "society" even mattered. I just desire to convince just one person. And you can feel that way if you wish, it won't change my mind.
| (>>2eaae4 =>>0d7dce =>>fb7294)
If you really care about it, I am of the faith that what most people call death is just a disconnection process between the 'soul' (aka the YOU core) and the body, and that the consciousness survives death. There is another death, one much much further that is essentially the dissipation of your 'self' (ego)
| >And do you know what coping means? I'm doing the opposite of coping. I'm taking pain head on while you want to flee from it.
Dear OP of the "examples of copium" thread,
| Life is not only about suffering g/u/rl.
I'm very happy when I eat my food, when I listen to good music that I like, when I play my favorite videogames, and many, many other moments in which I experience happiness and no suffering.
Also, it's very important to notice that I'm from a third world country. And I get to be very happy. Heck, I love my life!
You said life is pleasurable around 20% of the time.
I would personally say that life has suffering around 10% of the time.
| >>840123 The other 90% of life is very enjoyable.
Holy shit g/a/l, just think that life was incredibly more painful for the majority of humans for thousands of years, until it got significantly less painful around a century ago.
We're incredibly blessed by human progress right now.
Let's hope the future will be even better.
| If 20% of life is enjoyable for you, then you are in a good position. I will take the gamble if I get a win every 5 rolls, since rolling (living) is free and losing costs nothing other than feeling like shit. Not to mention, you eventually will get desensitized and losing will feel less shitty overtime.
Also, life is not 100% a gamble, you can surround yourself with as much as that 20% enjoyable things in life and be far away from the 80% shitty things in life.
| Maybe your current situation doesn't allow that, mine didn't when I was younger and has to deal with shitty stuff going in there. But once I'm out of school, I can choose to not participate in stuff that is not enjoyable and avoid lots of that 80% shitty things in life.
I bet my extended family judge me real hard, but who gives a damn. I would have killed myself long ago if I keep being forced dealing with stuff that comes with normal life.
| The “will to survive” is deep rooted in society’s need for workers or bottom class people. If people were “allowed” to die then there would be no more of these types of people and society wouldn’t function properly.
| AMAZING TAKE: A GOOD COMMIE IS A DEAD COMMIE
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| I'm tired of being told that "you should get out of abusive relationship" like it's common sense. In that case, why isn't assisted suicide also common sense? Life is pretty abusive tbh. It's only pleasurable for 20% of the time (and I'm talking pleasure in general, i.e. high-skill self-actualization and social activity in addition to bodily pleasure), and people pretend it's worth the trouble.