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Make danger/u/ use LGBTQ+ colors this month
| Not important
| Not important
| Redundant.
danger/u/ is already extremely lgbt as a community.
| https://dangeru.us/all/ here you are
| oh fur fuck's sake go away
| >>763801 we are all lesbian. We don't need some silly month to tell us when to show our true color's anymore. Stay proud fellow g/url's :3
| But that's precisely the thing. I *don't* support this bullshit. It's fucking everywhere already because companies want to sell like 'fellow kids'
>>763831
>g/url's
| Eh. As someone who's technically grouped in with multiple of the labels that go under LGBTQ+, I don't really think it's important.
I'm all for fighting for our rights and getting rid of biggotry, but I honestly think it's more powerful to not do that surface level stuff.
Danger/u/ as a site and community is very LGBT friendly in that people here, aside from a bait fag or two, are very accepting and doesn't treat people differently based on that kinda stuff.
| My point is that here on /u/ it's more or less normalised, and normalisation is what we want. The reason for all the rainbow coloured apps and stuff is because corporations glorify it for profit before they bounce and stop supporting it until next year's June.
In that way, /u/'s way of support does way more for people like me than any other sites "support" ever has. Here I'm just a person. On other sites I'll have to defend myself because corporate points out that I'm different.
| No
| N
| >>763835 Agreed, the normalization this site does on a regular basis is far more important than the superficial support other sites provide. Even glorifying LGBT+ superficially continues to make a divide which is harmful to its normalization in the long term. Not that I blame other sites for trying, but this sites way is better.
| Prefetcher is already struggling with other stuff like trying to keep this thing afloat, aside from that, we all know almost everyone here is queer as fuck, if not and insulting people then just some edgy mfs hopping from other sites, so we don't need that shit, plus it's good to have somewhere to escape from companies trying to sell me something because it has a rainbow and it's June, so whatever
| Thr rainbow is in our hearts and minds. Stop playing sports ball with symbols.
| I may be lesbian, but I hate being associated with something so leeching and commercialized so fuck you OP.
| No
| Get a life loser
| Казалось бы, причём тут Самара?
| >>763891 Same here, hell imo even the "community" these days is just less for support and more for like "Everyone is super special let's make 800 labels uwu." I just want to settle down and live my life with my gf thanks.
| >>763902
How is it creepy to want to be treated like a normal human being?
>>763920
Oh I've got a lot of gripes with the community. That community has some of the most hypocritical and toxic people I've ever seen, and half of the people in the LGBT community aren't even LGBT, and those are some of the worst ones. Can't stand it.
| >>763939
More than that, it sounds like active measures, cultural manipulation kinda shit... *shudder*
"Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized"...
Let fags be fags without the series of capital letters bullshit...
| >>763939 we shouldn't view 'gender and sexual minorities' as a single group that's outside normal society. These things are a part of everyone's life, and we need to not target people because theirs is different. That's very different than saying that we should dissolve all subcultures and be conformist, which is what it seems like people arguing against the term 'normalization' think it means.
| Maybe 'normalization' sounds different to different language backgrounds? I'm american and i normally hear it just about general social change without a positive or negative meaning. Like, there was conflict about what speed roads should be built for until car culture became normalized, lots of people want to normalize talking about mental health, etc
| >>763946
>we shouldn't view 'gender and sexual minorities' as a single group that's outside normal society
Why though? Sounds much more fun that way.
Also we're not your "fellow workers" or whatever.
| >>763949 i think it can only be done by hurting people. If society didn't punish people for doing gender differently or desiring the wrong people, then there wouldn't be a need for there to be a division between two communities of 'people who totally fit or are made to fit the traditional mold' and 'all the people who don't in some way'. There would probably be more and more specific communities
I don't really understand what you mean by the fellow workers thing.
| There is a fine line between the processes of normalization and objectification.
One is about not giving a fuck to the point where the questions are absurd and the other is about building a dichotomy from which one can't escape, but in exchange provides utility.
| >>763956
Yeah. The reason why the LGBTQ+ community exists, why pride parades and celebrations exist, why "coming out" is a thing, that's all because we lack normalisation.
One of the most annoying things I encounter Is people complaining about that and saying it's because we're trying to put ourselves above others and be "special", but in reality the reason is because we get treated like shit so the only thing we can do is to spread awareness and pray that bigots calm down.
| That's why I like places like this, because here we don't need to constantly explain things and educate people in order to not be considered a freak or outcast. We can just exist and people don't treat us any different for it. The fact that people don't do that irl is the reason why communities, parades and in some cases protests are necessary.
So to the people who are annoyed about all of that: Stop treating us like shit and we'll stop fighting for acceptance. Easy as that.
| Please don't
| well everyone is at some point treaten like shit by someone, that's good because you know the people that aren't worth it.
A world where everyone fakes kindness or is forced to would be sickening, and that's where we're going.
But yes among old adults, LGBT people aren't accepted by that much people.
But at least now being homophobic or transophob in public is blaspheme.
But beside being wrongly taken for a gay by boomers, I'm not that concerned.
| >>763992
Oh, you definitely haven't experienced that kinda shit. I can tell. It's not just old people g/u/rl. You'd be surprised by the amount of younger people who are bigoted. I get shit thrown at me randomly by both younger and older people simply for wearing typically feminine clothing. Like, even though I live in a first world country that supposedly is accepting of LGBT shit I never feel safe when I'm out by myself because of how much bigotry there is.
| And I'm not telling people to take kindness. A bigot pretending like they don't have anything against me is still a bigot. That's why normalisation and spreading awareness is so important.
In the school system for example, kids and teens never learn about this shit. It's treated as taboo. Which means that as they're growing up there are gonna be people who don't know shit about it and treat the people who're discovering themselves like shit, and then the cycle repeats, you know?
| I prefer bigots then people that want to social-engineer degeneracy into people's culture and call it "le normalization"
Useful idiots & political fetishes:
LBGT can die in a putrid hole for all I care.
| >>764020
Sexuality ≠ fetish
Now, I agree with somewhat. There are certain people in the LGBT community that do try to push fetishes, which I despise. What kinda weird shit turns you on in the bedroom ain't for the public to know.
But sexuality is not the same as a fetish. Sexuality is which gender(s) you have a romantic attraction to. Two boys having a romantic relationship is as much of a fetish as a boy and a girl having a romantic relationship, you feel?
It ain't a fetish thing.
| Same with gender stuff. Me wearing skirts sometimes isn't a fetish thing. It's not something that turns me on sexually and it's not to turn on others. It's just because I enjoy wearing them. It just makes me feel comfortable and eases my gender dysphoria, and that ain't got nothing to do with fetishism and it's not me pushing anything on anyone. It's just me wearing a piece of cloth that gives my little monkey brain a bit of serotonin. It ain't got nothing to do with anyone else.
| >>764026
Maybe. It's the fucking flagweaving and snowflaking and mob mentality that pissed me off.
"Ooh! How can we be accepted and show that we're just like everyone else? I know! Let's act like aggressive obnoxious faggots and slam into anyone who disagrees! Oh no, why are we being hated? Bigotreeeee!"
| >>764027
>wearing a piece of cloth that gives my little monkey brain a bit of serotonin
I'll back off from hating you on that one since you worded it like that, based fagger.
Still sounds like crossdressing fetish to me however,
| I don't hate gay people I just don't want to be reminded that they exist so please don't do this
| >>764028
As I explained earlier, the reason for people doinh that is because of the bigotry that already exists. But as I also explained, it's extremely flawed.
See, the majority of people in similar situations to me just want to not be treated differently. But, since we want to just live our lives normally without getting shit for it we keep it chill. We keep it on the low, you feel?
| But the few people in the community who are hypocritical, toxic cunts, they're loud as fuck. So those are the ones that people who aren't familiar with this kinda stuff notice, and then they group us in with those cunts who we also hate. Essentially, we have a common enemy, but a lot of view people like me as part of that common enemy, which leads to the entire situation going nowhere. I'm forced to defend myself on the regular because of the people who hate the people that I hate.
| >>764029
Well, sure. I understand why it sounds like that to someone who hasn't felt gender dysphoria. It's, not an easy thing to explain honestly, because it's a very difficult thing to compare with other things.
But, hmm. Try to imagine how it feels when you're hungry. When you're hungry, you get kinda out of it and things don't feel very good. Kinda painful. But if you eat a bit of food, you'll feel better.
| It's kinda like that, but instead of food it's wearing girly clothes and being acknowledged as female.
When the gender dysphoria is hitting, it's sort of like being hungry. My body doesn't feel right, it's kinda painful, and it's like an instinctual level kind of thing as opposed to an emotion kind of thing.
But when I wear more feminine clothes and there are people around me acknowledging me as female then the pain eases up and my body doesn't feel as weird. Doesn't feel as wrong.
| I hope that helped paint at least a rough image of if it. Obviously, it's not a flawless metaphor and not 100% accurate to how it is, and it definitely left out a lot of the actual science behind how it works, but, it's the best way to describe it without saying a bunch of unnecessarily complicated stuff.
| Bait thread. I'm disappointed of /u/
| >>764036
Clothes also is definitely not the only thing that helps dysphoria. It's just as much about the body.
Some of my figuring out was making sure it wasn't /just/ clothes.
| Or leaving your hair a certain way. Stuff like that.
One thing on it's own is one thing, a bunch of things together is another.
| >>764032
>reason for people doinh that is because of the bigotry that already exists
My bigotry exist because of the fags pushing their shit everywhere I go.
>We keep it on the low, you feel?
Best possible take bro
| >>764034
>common enemy
Hate this mindset
>>764037
It would be better if you came to just accept yourself...
| >>764045 >>764046
Of course, but I'm trying to keep it simple. I do a lot more than just clothing stuff for my dysphoria, but getting shit for how I present myself was what I started the rant on so I kept it to that. That's also why I said that it eases it a bit, not makes me feel good.
| >>764047
>My bigotry exist because of the fags pushing their shit everywhere I go.
That's my point. People were bigots, therefore the people getting oppressed started fighting, but some of the people doing that aren't fighting for acceptance but using the banner as an excuse to be toxic cunts pushing stuff down people's throats, and that results in more biggotry and intolerance because people group all of us in with those few, like what you're doing.
| >>764048
>Hate this mindset
I don't really care, it's just true. I hate those people, you hate those people. That makes them a common enemy, like, just by definition.
>It would be better if you came to just accept yourself...
Well, that's just not how it works. I really wish it was though, trust me. But, as I explained, it's not an insecurity thing or any sort of emotion based thing.
| To go off of that though now that you mention "just accept yourself" it's not like I haven't tried. I had a similar mindset to you. I knew what I was feeling but I thought "Nah, this can't be right. Maybe it's just some mental thing. Maybe I'm just insecure or got some trauma idk about or something." and I went to therapy. Proffesional, specialised therapy, for a long time, to work on accepting myself without changing anything. Well, that eventually drove me to the edge of suicide.
| So, eventually I came fully clean to my therapist about my gender dysphoria. I talked to him, I talked to another therapist who's specialised in that kind of stuff, and on the side I talked to some people I know who study psychology and shit.
All of them came back with the same answer. "It's not a mental issue or an insecurity. It's not something that can be changed. Only thing you can really do is find ways to cope with it and accept that that's who you are."
| I didn't want to accept it. I mean, shit. The label I technically go under is "gender fluid". Who the fuck wants a label like that? I certainly didn't, and even now that I've accepted myself I still avoid using it as much as possible. Because, let's be real. Half of the most annoying cunts on Twitter are the ones who use "gender fluid" as an excuse for their toxicity.
I tried so goddamn hard to fight it, but that led to the lowest point in my life.
Now I'm at the highest I've been.
| >>764070
Well, I guess we all did start as "gender fluid". You're strangely agreeable, gurl. The dysphoria thing is unnatural and icky, but you're not being a toxic tranny with it, and it sounds like you usually keep it to yourself.
It's better if you can mitigate psychological suffering in whatever way fits you best, even though I keep my reservations on whether this particular way is actually the sanest for you.
I don't take kindly to mental pain, we don't like each other much...
| Nice blog
| >>764072
Well, whether or not it's "natural" depends on your definition of the word. It's not just humans these things happen with. Both different sexualities and gender issues have been observed in animals as well, so in that sense it is kinda just something that happens in nature. So, very technically, it's natural.
And, well, I tried for years to mitigate it in other ways but that ruined my mental health to the point where I had to be locked up. I'd say I'm way more sane now.
| >>764121
In almost no animals. Even then it remains thoroughly unnatural since it serves no natural purpose. It would also be unnatural and prevent evolution for the person
| >>e58830 okay Richard dawkins. Why don't you return to monke and drag your ass on the carpet whilst you're at it. Be natural.
Human social structures exist to cope with the knowledge of the self, dumbfuck.
Sooner you realise the language games we play have tangible effects on people which you just have to deal with, the sooner you can be productive and do something with your life. And maybe be happy, that is if you decide not to be so self absorbed.
| >>764123
Sure. You can you see it that way, but that doesn't change it, you feel? You not liking it or there not being much of an evolutionary purpose behind it doesn't prevent it from existing and being a real thing.
Again, I wish it wasn't a thing, because not only does it causes me a lot of extra stress and mental pain, but I also get a lot of shit for existing, you know? I was literally born as a target. If you wish it wasn't real, try to imagine how I feel. Shit sucks.
| >>764133
I don't recall ever meeting a tfagger I can actually vibe with. You're my favourite troon (?!?) this is coming from an evil bigot hater as well...
Don't do surgery though, seriously.
| You say that you wish it didn't exist, but you'd push for normalization of this, which would make more young people fad-hop onto it because it becomes more fashionable.
All this topic has always just been uncomfortable to me.
| >>764135
I probably won't do any surgery. My dysphoria comes in waves after all, so all that would achieve is me feeling good on the days I normally feel bad, and then feel bad on the days I normally feel good.
I'm not someone who opposes surgery and stuff though, but it's definitely something people should be careful with. You should go to therapy and be 100% sure for preferably years before doing it, and obviously should be an adult as well.
| >>764136
That's just, irrational fear. You can't turn someone gay or bi or whatever the fuck. You can't cause someone who doesn't have gender dysphoria to have gender dysphoria. It's not a mental thing and it's not an environment thing.
Sure, some young people might say some ignorant shit for attention or call themselves by their "furry pronouns" or whatever the fuck on Discord, but that's just cringy ass kids who want attention. Kids are always gonna find a way to be cringy.
| Like, if some white kid on Discord is trying to pretend to be black online but just being an ignorant, cringy little cunt, that doesn't mean that white people should throw shit at black people. It just means they gotta raise their kids better, you feel?
The biggest part of normalisation is education. Rn some kids be acting weird for attention because it's something people look at as different and controversial. If people just treated us like normal people it wouldn't be a problem.
| And before anyone goes on about some shit like "Did you just compare faggot shit to race?", like, yeah. I did because both are something you're born as, and not something you have a choice or a say in.
Obviously there's differences, but at the end of the day both are not something you choose. It's how you're born, it's out of your control and it's not something you can change no matter how hard you try. So it's an easy thing to compare with.
| Well I don't agree with that.
| Fuck off Faggot
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| >>764169
Well, no shit. I'm a faggot, you're a bigot. We probably won't agree on most things. That's why I like having a conversation though, so I can get both sides, and you've actually been decent to talk to. Way better than the ones who just call me faggot a couple times and then bounce without saying shit.
| >>764191
Those and >>764034, and they are probably causing each other
>'ve actually been decent to talk to
If people would be perfect then politics would die
How well do you pass? I am a totally evil bigot but I do have a thing for qt femboys
| >>764195
True. I wouldn't mind politics dying though. It's annoying sometimes.
I'm not a huge fan of the mentality of "passing", but, I do like showing off.
Also, that's kind of an oxymoron, isn't it?
But, I mean, I guess you could be the judge of it if you wanna.
| >>764199
Oh sure, but I'll only rate if you want me to, and I prefer brutal honesty so ye be warned.
Politics and the -isms and -ists are trash, not necessarily born in malevolence...
| >>764200
Sure. I prefer honesty.
https://imgur.com/a/6mDHp3I
Disclaimer: Didn't have the time or tools to shave fully in the last one, and I still don't, so, deal with it.
I agree. Bit that it's trash and that it's not necessarily born from malevolence. But, that doesn't change the results.
| Nice blog
| >>764205
Yeah I did see a lot of hairs, and that's not my thing. Too imitatey or something, I prefer real bona fide based twinks. Too 'just a guy in girl clothes' for me. Also that crossdresser skirt classic, I don't think I even saw girls wear these types of bottoms heh
Steam press your hair
| >>764206
Ain't nobody stopping you from talking homie. I'd love to have more people adding to the conversation.
| >>764207
Understandable, and if I had the resources for it I wouldn't have all that hair, but I don't. My clothes are more or less exclusively gifts. Ain't in the best economic position rn. Girl stuck with male body is probably a more accurate description though, so I do find it weird that you're against surgeries and stuff.
I get what you mean. I've seen it on a few girls, but not many. I've always thought it looked nice though and wanted it to be more common.
Nah. Not my thing.
| This is also something kinda funny though. I need people to decide if I "pass" or not or do feminine looks "the right way" or not for people to only partially accept me wearing stuff like that. Not saying that's what you're doing, but for a lot of people I need to fit their standards of what they think that people like me should look like. Not even regular girls are treated that harshly with how they present themselves and what they wear.
It's kinda weird how it is like that.
| >>764209
Were you kicked out?
>against surgeries
"Gender confirming surgery" it this age's lobotomy. Prescribed by quacks, supposedly fixes everything, but just fucks people up and is irreversible.
How can you know that your understanding of what a girl is isn't solely from a male perspective?
| >>764212
Kicked out from where?
I disagree. It's not advertised as "fixes everything". It doesn't. But for the people who struggle with gender dysphoria it helps a lot with managing it, and I've seen many cases where you can't tell that they're trans because of the surgeries. Like, there's a close friend of mine who I didn't even know was trans until she told. Shit's smooth as fuck.
Because I don't "try to be a girl".
| >>764214
Don't you think that's insidious towards the people that want to date girls? And destroying your reproductive capabilities too, I can't imagine the resulting hole to be able to feel pleasure.
I'm always walking on eggshells when talking about this... hence the disclaimer>>764200
| Like, the few times I get money for clothes and I go to buy it my mindset isn't "what would make me look like a girl?". I just browse the website and click on the clothes I think look nice. With my hair and stuff I style it how I personally enjoy styling it. I don't look at pictures of girls and try to look like that. I just do my own thing I guess.
Like, my mentality is that your gender is separate from your personality and what you wear. I wear what I want and I act how I want.
| >>764215
Uh, what? How would being a girl be mean insidious to people who like girls? What kinda logic is that?
You should do more research on the topic. There are different types of bottom surgery. There's one type that makes it so that you can't feel pleasure, but there's also one that keeps certain parts of your genitals intact and uses that as part of the process for making the new ones, and the result is that you get one that looks and works the exact same, with pleasure.
| >>764217
>How would being a girl be mean insidious to people who like girls
Uh, what? What kinda logic is that?
| Obviously, you lose the ability to reproduce. We haven't come that far with the technology yet. But, also, I don't think more people adopting is something to complain about. The fact that it doesn't allow for reproduction results in more kids who don't have parents or can't stay with their biological parents get a new home, and I don't see anything negative with that.
| >>764219
I don't think that's a valid argument when it's only 1st world nations that do these surgeries while the 3rd world's reproduction numbers remain unchecked.
| >>764218
I mean, I might understand what you're trying to say if you explain it. I don't see why that would be insidious to anyone though. It also, like, doesn't really have anything to do with anyone else. Expressing yourself physically is something you do for you, not for others.
| >>764221
I'll put it in blunt terms then.
I don't want to end up in a relationship with a fake girl.
The tranny thing makes that more likely to happen.
I wish there were just a lot more tomboys and twinks tbh.
| >>764222
Well, for one, "fake" isn't correct. They're a girl whether you like it or not homie.
If you think that people getting to transition and stuff makes it likely for you to fall in love with one of them, why does it matter? You wanna date girls but you don't wanna date girls who have a label put on them? I don't see the issue.
How people present themselves isn't for you though. Again, gender expression isn't something people do for others. It's for ourselves. Not for you.
| What it seems to boil down to is just, kinda you being in your head too much to be honest. Like, I don't blame you for that. That kinda mindset comes from environment. I've seen it a lot, especially in my hometown. There are a lot of people here who think exactly like you do.
But, I mean, trannies aren't doing anything to you. I'm not doing anything to you. Most people honestly don't give a shit about either of us, you know? So if you don't wanna be around us then just, don't.
| >>764223
>a girl whether you like it or not
I don't believe that is scientifically correct, I don't consider trans girls to be girls, and this mindset is partially why I'm hostile to the whole idea...
>why does it matter?
Betrayal, lack of trust.
Don't you think it's selfish to not consider what impact it may have on other people? Don't you think you put too much importance on matters of gender, when it's not even 100% sure to be real?
| >>764225
>trannies aren't doing anything to you
Not the ones that keep to themselves, and I seem to have been the one to ask you most of the questions.
Being discrete and going NAP is refreshing, I guess I'm just allergic to worldviews such as these >>764223.
I usually consider that it just can't be healthy for someone to have a different "gender" than their sex.
Must hurt.
| >>764226
I mean, the multiple proffesional therapists and the psychology students I mentioned earlier that I talked to while trying to figure out if this was something I could change, they said that it is scientifically correct. That the people who research stuff related to that kinda shit say that gender is something that's based in the brain and does not depend on the physical body you have. And, well, I trust their words and sources more than I trust you, you feel?
| Looks like I find it as hard leaving people to do their own shit as companies and politics in regards to this whole mess...
| >>764228
I keep in mind the difference between discovering and inventing. It's like everything is technically correct if you shine it under a certain light. The term 'gender' itself was coined by Dr. John Money. He got a young boy as patient and essentially forcefully 'transitioned' him, which included bottom surgery and filming sexual acts between him and his brother, if I recall. Both boys later committed suicide
| Everything about this makes me just uncomfortable, and I don't like talking about it.
| >>764226
I don't see how being trans is betrayal towards anyone, and, well, as I just said, according to the people I've talked to who have studied this kinda shit for years and years, it is real. So, well, that's not a doubt that I have.
>>764227
Well, apparently. Because most people ain't got nothing to do with you and have never even considered interacting with you, but you still seem to despise them all.
| >>764232
To the person in the relationship who wouldn't want that?
>most people ain't got nothing to do with you
Is this a roundabout way to call me a loser or something?
| >>764229
True. It certainly seems so.
>>764230
What's your point? Some guy way back in the past was a cunt and fucking disgusting. Like, that doesn't have anything to do with current day stuff.
>>764231
I think maybe that's where the problem is. If you don't talk about it you'll never see multiple sides of it. That's why I'm talking with you. Because while I feel super unsafe and uncomfortable because of people like you, I do want to understand and have conversations about it.
| >>764234
Well, if you don't want that, then just, don't? Like, what? If someone isn't my type I'm not gonna date them and then complain about them not being my type. That would be 100% on me. Not on them.
No. I'm not insulting you. I'm just saying that if you look at the world as a whole, the world population and shit, an extremely miniscule amount of people actually interact with and give a shit about either of us. They don't have anything to do with either you or me.
| >I feel super unsafe and uncomfortable See because of people like you
Have some obscure weirdo goth crossdressing Russian punk-metal music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMn4BSyAKKU
>If someone isn't my type I'm not gonna date them
Admit it, it does make it easier to deceive someone.
>if you look at the world as a whole
That's why I wanna spend the rest of my years traveling Earth and seeing all sorts of crazy & new things. Experience helps shape an understanding of reality.
| >>764238
Uh. Thanks? Don't know if that's supposed to be a dig at me, but I do enjoy some good metal from time to time.
Again, I don't know what you mean by "deceive". Like, do you want people who are trans to me marked like what they did to gays during WW2? Slap a little triangle on all of them so you know who to treat badly or not? Like, I assume you don't go into a relationship with someone without knowing them first, so it's not like it'd be a secret.
| >>764238
>That's why I wanna spend the rest of my years traveling Earth and seeing all sorts of crazy & new things. Experience helps shape an understanding of reality.
Whoa. That's something we actually have in common. I'm currently trying to work and save up so I can start traveling to a bunch of different countries and talk to lots of different people, get to see many different perspectives on things etc.
Doing that alongside my best friend is, like, my life goal.
| >>764239
Well, fucking hell, it was supposed to be the opposite of a dig, especially because >super unsafe and uncomfortable.
Sigh
>>764239
I don't see why the little triangles came into play now...
| >>764240
Covid fucked everything up. I had so many plans and now I'm just cooped up at home, it can really fuck with a person. Sometimes I feel like I'm in prison, and my sight is all restrained, fucking anti-fulfilling shit.
| Earlier you said I hate trannies, I'd rather say I hate this blend of trannyism that goes all political and pushes its shit everywhere and is all aggressive and mentally disturbed and shit and has this kind of toxic mentality. It's all summed up with me saying I just don't think it's natural. Like a person can't really blossom by being like that. A part of me always makes the connection with mental illness, and usually I fucking hate mental illness.
| >>764241
Damn, aight. Sorry for assuming it was mean spirited. To be fair though, you did basically the same thing with something I said though, but I do appreciate it.
I just thought it was a funny comparison. Back then they put little triangles on fags so they could tell who was a fag and who wasn't so they wouldn't accidentally treat them like a normal person. Obviously not comparing your way of thinking to Nazi's and shit. That would be extremely exaggerated.
| >>764244
It's from this silly assumption that we are naturally born enemies or something.
If I was a fagger I'd put those triangles on myself for shits and giggles, in a cheeky cunt way. Maybe start a brand or something.
| >>764242
I 100% feel you on that. Shit sucks. I would have been in a different country chilling with my foreign homies rn if it wasn't for this bullshit. Now the most I can do is go drinking with people who have street cred so I don't get dropped by the people here who dislike me while I can't fight back. I hate it here.
| >>764243
I hate the political shit too. It's not something that should be political at all. But some people base their politics around hating us and some base their politics around liking us a little too much, and then that just results in us being treated as walking prices of political issues instead of as people. Shit's retarded. On both sides.
| >>764246
I don't know how your borders look, but you should try workaway or wwoofing.
Yer gonna work for food and housing in a hotel, plantation, farm, touristic attraction, family home... maybe paid
| >>764245
I mean, I do shit like that. I mentioned way back that I'm not a fan of the labels that are put in me, so if someone asks I just call myself a faggot and leave it at that, and I'm definitely the person in my friend group who makes the most and worst homophobic jokes and shit. I don't take it very seriously, and, I have genuinely considered having that triangle just randomly as a song/EP cover that's completely unrelated to that shit just for fun.
| >>764250
Well you are kinda based. Not taking things seriously is liberating, and labels are very often just yuck. Wait, you do music?
| >>764249
I have thought about that kinda stuff. My borders are some of the strictest in the world right now though, and even if they start opening up a bit throughout the summer I just copped myself a pretty decent job that lasts through the summer and until a little bit into fall, so I'm not gonna leave that cause it definitely pays better than the other stuff and gives me a nice little headstart.
| >>764251
Well, thank you. And, I wouldn't be alive right now if I took everything seriously. If I spent all my time grieving over every little struggle I have and how "oh no everything's so unfair" I wouldn't be able to function. So I just fuck around and joke about it.
Yeah, I do. Sadly I've got, like, 3 EPs just on hold and unreleased because my producers barely functioning equipment finally broke down and I haven't been able to find anyone else who does mixing and shit for free.
| It's kind of wholesome seeing this thread turn out as it did.
| >>764255
Aw. I honestly thought you'd close it when you saw the word "tranny", but I'm glad you didn't.
| >>764255
PINK??? REE TRANNY!!!
>>764253
You know about song-chan? Nowadays stuff gets released indie, maybe that works out for you. Since I cannot restrain my innate curiosity I'd want to have a listen as well.
bonus, my weird ass belief system https://pastebin.com/Ny5YG2zZ
| >>764256 >>764257
We thought about it, but the thread has been pretty relaxed and it seemed like y'all were having a good conversation. Not like the ego stroking piss fights in /new/, by comparison. So, no need.
| >>764257
Of course I know song-chan. She's a good friend of mine. Insanely talented.
I mean, problem is just that I don't know shit about mixing and mastering and my brain stops functioning whenever I try to learn. Even though my vocals have improved a lot since I last released it still sounds like shit without any mixing.
Sure. I don't mind sharing, but the only two releases I have were basically just filler until the first EP, which is still on hold.
soundcloud.com/gregmansion
| Oh. Well, just copy-paste the link into your browser of choice. It apparently doesn't work directly from the app without all the www and stuff.
| >>764263
Well I'm the guy who cleaned up the audio on her songs. I'll check em out.
Interesting to get to know the song-chan cinematic universe!
| >>764258
Ah, yeah. I can't stand that kinda shit. Conversations should be conversations. Childish screaming should stay in elementary.
| >>764265
Oh, shit. Well, thank you! I appreciate it. Your work was clean as fuck and made her really happy.
Also, again, this isn't really indicative of my music. They're both way slower than most of my songs and there's not much variation in them. I saved all the good shit for the EPs, but, it went from that being filler until the first EP to the first EP being put on hold for so long that I've got enough for 3-4 bigger EPs ready that just needs mixing and shit.
| >>764273
I mean, it's an artist name. Even if you can find my real name through it I don't really care. I stand by the shit that I've said, so it's not like it can be used against me.
| Someone please make a tl;dr of this conversation.
| >>764290
Pride-ism can fuck off, trannyism is cringe but some trannies are based, psychological pain is bitterly real, and politics suck cum out of ass
| >>764290
Bigots are toxic and some LGBT people are toxic. Both are cancer and both fuel eachother to be more toxic. Mental pain is hell. LGBT shit shouldn't be considered a political thing but it is and it sucks. Some bigots can actually hold a conversation despite being, well, bigots.
| Hey tranner, have you tried Pimozide?
| >>764325
Still not trans, and no. I'm not in my room casually popping antipsychotics because of some cunt in '96 spreading a rumour that somehow caught on. I'm retarded. Not dumb.
| >>764335
>Pimozide has been used in the treatment of delusional disorder and paranoid personality disorder.[5] It has also been used for delusional parasitosis.[6] It was also shown to alleviate gender dysphoria.[7]
| >https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.3109/00048679609065010
>Outcome: There was an excellent response to pimozide 2 mg daily, with a cessation of both cross-dressing and the wish for "sex reassignment". When, after 1 year, the dose was reduced to 1 mg daily, there was a rapid return of the cross-dressing and the wish for "sex reassignment". An increase in the dose again led to a remission which has been maintained since then.
| >>764338
Yet again, outdated thing with no proof from '96 and it's the only thing out there that claims that it works while every modern source you can find that talks about this exact thing is about how it's bullshit. Shit's called confirmation bias. You see one little thing that says something that fits with the way you think and then it's automatically the truth for you.
I wish it was that simple, but every modern proffesional I've talked to and read from has called it bs.
| Like, homie. I live in one of the most medically advanced countries in the world. If it was as simple as taking some pills then I wouldn't be having this issue. If it was as simple as popping a couple pills every now and then I would have a prescription for it and be taking them daily. If it was a mental issue that caused it, then mental health professionals would be on the case of curing it for me right now instead of explaining to me how it isn't one.
| I find it amazing, not to say ridiculous when I see these people who are so empty that they even make their whole personality revolve around being a faggot.
| absolutely nobody cares if you take it up your ass, being a fag doesn't make you special or different from anyone else.
| And this whole "lgbt pride" thing is a hell of a lie. If you guys are so proud of being gay, why do you keep killing yourself then?
| >>764395
Ideally, yeah. In reality? No. I live in the kinda place where if a boy seems a little bit more feminine in appearance or way of talking, even if they're straight and all that shit, they get socially outcast and treated like shit for it.
We shouldn't be treated different, and I agree that making it your whole personality is some annoying ass retarded shit, but, what we as a whole want is to not be treated as "special" or "different". But, people still do it, don't they?
| Are there people in the community who try to make themselves out to be better than everyone else? Yeah, there is, and as I've explained, nobody likes them. Nobody in the community likes them, nobody outside of the community likes them. They're toxic as shit and nobody wants them there. They're fighting against our cause wielding the flag of our cause, and it's disgusting.
But then y'all come around and generalise and say everyone's exactly like those few and thus bigotry continues.
| >>764396 this is an incredibly disengenuous argument and everyone knows it. Being a target of bullying alone raises suicide rates more than any gender/sexual identity does. Guess what nine out of ten of people saying that are themselves doing right then?
| >>f0883d
>>764400
if you're different, you'll be treated differently, it's simple. No one said life is fair, and whining about it on an anonymous forum isn't going to change that.
| >>764401
Dude honestly, how can I be intolerant about you being a fag if I don't give a shit about your fucking existence?
The need fags have to show off your own sexual preferences to everyone would be hilarious if it weren't irritating. Not caring that you take it up your ass doesn't make me intolerant.
Nobody gives a shit about you.
| "hey guys lets put our flag everywhere cause we have to show that se support sucking cock"
Thats why you get your ass beat
| >>764415
your argument is flawed. if bullying, prejudice and ill-treatment by society were factors in suicide then everyone who is black would already be dead. You don't see any black committing suicide out there because he's black.
| because black people are proud to be black
fags are not proud of who they are, thats why they commit suicide
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