Humans, like all living things, respond to incentive structures
| correct
| And yet its the only one that has inventivized hard works to be done. We respond to wanting out hard work to not go to waste, to earn something for it. And it does
| Also why do you use the exact same grammatical errors as that Russian pedo from the Epstein files lmao
| why bother. clearly rligion only concerns being smarter and dominant. might as weell consider them being in the hell they curse everyone to be and with romansa and egypts they hate so much or properly lose regularly
| so does religion. it has unlimited potential or even loophole to correctly claim are morals wirhout being so. dude at flockmod likes it only for being or looking rational and then nothing else. what a psycho. then he went for personal attack
| yes, and?
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| >>1084169 Money is the sorcerer's spell used to command and acquire resources in a distributed system. Markets use this abstraction to encapsulate complex needs, where money conjures the emergent magic of wealth. Conversely, Socialism forces a Central Evaluator to manage global mutable state without the pricing spell. It inevitably hits an intractable bottleneck, crashing the system and returning the default uninitialized state: poverty and tyranny.
| I don’t think they are one force. I think there are a bunch of people making decisions and when power is in the hands of people who make good decisions it’s good and when in bad decisions it’s bad. For instance at my job everyone gets the same pay for somewhat different work, which is socialism, but it basically works out. We get paid for our labor which is capitalism, which also works. I recently read about wars in South America for control of resources which is both
| Because it was rich people in the government killing people for more stuff/power. The key thing I think is for some reason today rich people don’t feel comfortable having wars to take things by moving borders around at the scale they once did. I don’t understand why- it still happens to some degree, but it used to be groups of rich people had to fight battles to try to have stuff, and now they own real estate or something. It’s so confusing.
| But it’s not capitalism or socialism. It’s power concentration and more specific incentives. They had capitalism and socialism in 1800s South America and got wars. Then they had them during the Cold War and things were more peaceful. Now they have them and things are generally peaceful with spots of violence. During feudalism I understand that there were peaceful areas and violent areas, prosperous areas and bad ones. Sometimes empires were good and sometimes not.
| Maybe here’s a theory: where the government is good, socialism is good. Where the rich are good, capitalism is good. Where either is bad, both are bad.
| That's actually a very mature take
| a good oligarch is an oxymoron. you don't get this rich without exploiting people and poisoning the system
| >>1084464
The ones who own lots of farms generally seem horrible but I think some of the industrialists moved things forward without being too harmful, though I’m not sure. I work at Amazon and I’m ok, and make a wage about the same as other delivery people, and they have pride flags in the warehouse I like too. Also Bill gates, right? I’d much rather bill gates have power than mao, for instance, but yeah it’s suspicious to have too much power at the top on any system.
| I love little girls (sexually) this is a projection
| >>1084169
greed is not part of the system. system is by definition whatever is laid down by the law. the law under capitalism doesn't reward greed, human behavior does, you can simply decide to not reward greed as a collective, it's not illegal
| >>1084663
you don't know what the word system means. greed in capitalism is the result of an emergent configuration based on how humans inside the system operate given free choice. not the actual rule of the system
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| Capitalism provides perverse incentives.
It rewards greed.
Therefore people maximize for greed.
It ensures the existence of a desperate underclass.
Therefore people structure their lives around secure stability.
Change the system, change the behavior.
Create a system where caring for others is prized and sociopathic greed is punished, and people will maximize accordingly.