| I found an explanatory model that I thought was extremely interesting and spot on. I wanted to share the excerpt below from the book “The Bullies and Justice” by Maciej Zaremba, pages 44-45.
| "Thirty years ago, people would rush to defend the bullied. Not anymore. And why? Because they fear that no one else will stand up. Thirty years ago, her patients suffered from neuroses, anxiety, and feelings of guilt, explains a psychiatrist. Today, they are tormented by a lack of self-worth, which they try to conquer at the expense of others."
| What has happened? Hirigoyen, who has researched the topic of bullying, fears that humanity has become more fragile and that it was at work that people lost their pride. Endless restructuring where everyone constantly has to prove that they are worthy—better than their colleague. This breeds suspicion—which is directed elsewhere.
| Hirigoyen argues that it is the manipulative management methods that are changing society. People find it difficult to trust each other when everyone is constantly competing against everyone else. There is no solidarity anymore. The author asks what Hirigoyen means by “manipulation” and receives the response that it means deliberately keeping people in uncertainty."
| I happened to find an interesting quote on a psychologist's website that I can relate to:
"A problem with high intelligence, which makes it so difficult to talk about this, is that it can feel discriminatory to those who do not have as high intelligence (the 'just normal' ones). That is, it can be narcissistically wounding for someone to possess this more than oneself because it is considered 'so nice.'
| High intelligence causes irritation (in teachers and leaders who feel offended) and loneliness (always being too quick in thought and being misunderstood in discussions). Those with lower intelligence find it hard to understand this, and it is probably one of the reasons there is significant resistance to having compassion for those perceived as privileged and possessing an ability that triggers envy and thus contempt (sour grapes, said the fox…)."
| I don't tend to claim to have high intelligence, but it is precisely when I have done or know something beyond what is expected of me, or anticipates a problem, that some people start reacting with hostility. Especially when it comes from bosses or informal 'superiors.'
| This is so frustrating and gives a sense of injustice because I do not compare or compete myself. I want a reasonably calm everyday life, a little variation and development, but nothing excessive, and most importantly, enough energy left when I go home.
I find the idea of narcissistically wounding quite plausible, as it may provoke bullying behavior, and WHAT is hurtful in that way could be entirely different things depending on what one values (?)
| >outskirts of dangeru
>workplace
are you trying to paste an idea while changing the main names of the subject to be relevant in /u/?
| LoL, didn't read
| I think you could just as easily ascribe people feeling isolated due to intelligence as just another form of narcissism.
Think of the origins of the word idiot, where it's not about general intelligence but rather ones ability to think outside oneself.
Though I still agree that intelligent people feel isolated but it's usually an unconscious self fulfilling prophecy on their part.
Gives chunni vibes, at worst maybe peter tiel or Jonathan blow. Gd autistic read tho.
God bless
| >>1051812
Nah, tbh your reasons aren't very intelligent or thought-out because they're completely void of reasoning. Like, can you not notice that instantly when you open your mouth???
| I appreciate that the responses were as expected.
Maybe there's hope, maybe you guys can be intelligent and lonely together:)
| Wow interesting about the changing psychiatry. I think the culture is more fragmented too and people’s maladaptive coping mechanisms changed maybe. I thought bullying was bad then too but maybe it wasn’t! I can never say for sure.
Ooohhhh and I guess high intelligence people weren’t so scary when everyone was married and in the same job forever since you knew they wouldn’t trick you and steal your stuff but now yeah people are like crabs in a bucket
| Nooo lonely!!! Hugs time! We’re still all g/u/rls together! No reorganization here!
| i am bumping this thread so i remember to read it when it isnt 4am
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| Hello,
There are some of us here on the outskirts of dangeru who have discussed and tried to understand the reasons why it feels more aggressive in workplaces nowadays than in previous years, and have tried to figure out what has happened over the years where bullying has increased. Why it has escalated.