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Some of you probably got NPD
| what are u wafflin bout⁉️???? dont give chronically online ppl more self diagnoses fuel anon
| Like, the amount of people I've known throughout my life who check every single criteria for this shit honestly surprised me. If you're someone who hates yourself deeply (especially if you got ADHD or something as well) then at least look into it
During my time learning about it someone close to me found out they have it, and it really is just, like, it's not about selfishness. For the most people who got it it simply manifests as deep self-hatred and issues regulating feelings
| i doo got self hatred but is that not just low self esteem? either way, reckon ill look into it
| >>1030427
I’m an extremely frequent poster on this site I probably have anything you diagnose! I actually downloaded a book on ADHD today, and I do distain myself. What do I need to do to manage it op? Thanks for thinking of us like this!
| i need therapy
| >>1030431
I mean, obviously could be. It's not like "self-hatred = NPD" by any means. But due to the public perception of NPD being that it's something that makes you think you're better than others and the only person that matters when it's damn near the opposite is the reason most never find out. It's also very difficult to deal with NPD and improve your situation if you're not aware you have it, so it's worth looking into, especially if you got a decent therapist to do it with
| >>1030435
Then you gotta learn to distinguish between awareness and encouraging people being weird about mental health shit. Being aware of mental health shit can be life changing, especially if you don't got the means to go to therapy (which most don't nowadays lets be real, especially if you're mentally ill) or if you know people with mental health issues. Gatekeeping information won't stop the "haha quirky I'm so OCD xD" type mfs, so what's gained from not talking about it?
| >>1030439
fair enough i aint against talkin and bringin awareness to it all. i guess its just your thread title that reminded me of it somewhat like it was already diagnosing everyone.
| >>1030440
That's fair. It's low-key a clickbait sounding title now that I read it back. I'm being fully genuine though. While anyone with the means should get diagnosed professionally, ik people who's careful self-diagnosis and general awareness was the only reason they survived long enough to ever afford therapy. So, yk, my intentions are not to encourage people calling themselves narcissists loosely, just to talk about it cause I think it's information that should be better known
| >>1030441
its alr thought that counts n all considering ur comin from a genuine concern. but i agree with you, all that you’re saying. you succeeded tho in your intentions, at least for me
| Oh, OP is one of those people
| My line of thought would be that even if you don’t strongly fit into the symptoms profile, most of the thinking exercises for NPD would probably have a positive influence on your life. I would guess that it instead of watching YouTuber self improvement theories, people vascilated between doing cbt for mental illnesses they didn’t really have, they would see improvement in their lives, because ultimately healthy patterns of thought are going to be good for everyone.
| you mean that you're not liking the trolling going on?
| I must be unique! I have 3 things wrong with me!!! I wasn't diagnosed but it's true!!!! Big pharma doesn't want you to know the truth!!!!!!! Better help dot com told me so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| >>1030506
oh that website is super sketchy they like sell data and control this site reddit that's popular with some people here in the america and that's why you see people say 'therapy' a lot. BUT I still stand by this statement.
>>1030501
The idea that you need someone to 'diagnose' you to start trying to describe your problems and make them less bad is not a good one at all!
Also you are unique <3 so don't get all ashamed
| >>1030501
For sure!! While I don't have it myself I've benefited a lot from learning about it. Both in the way you said as well as being able to better understand and help the people in my life who have NPD or things with similar symptoms. A better understanding of things is never bad
>>1030510
Yeah, especially when there are such high rates of misdiagnosing and underdiagnosing, especially for women. Even if you have a therapist it's good to be able to go back and forth with them
| Not in like an arguing kinda way, but just being able to present more information and maybe take some things with a grain of salt. My therapist due to a bad and outdated understanding of certain things made my mental health overall a lot worse. So I educated myself and found a therapist who was more open to hearing the thoughts of the patient, and that helped me get to a better place in a fraction of the time I spent with my first therapist
| Is this "you all should become good but there are people who're bad and good so be careful".
Do you want to know something specific?
| "Their view of themselves is extremely malleable and dependent on others' opinions of them. They are also hypersensitive to criticism and possess an intense need for admiration.[13][14][15] People with NPD gain self-worth and meaning through this admiration"
Whoah I have constant fantasies about being a hero and important and good in other's eyes. I was literally just fantasizing about if one of my family members was terrible to me in front of others so I could be sided with.
| " Although overconfidence tends to make people with NPD very ambitious, such a mindset does not necessarily lead to professional high achievement and success, because they refuse to take risks, in order to avoid failure or the appearance of failure"
uh huh...
OK chat I'm looking for a CBT workbook now! ^^ I hope maybe I could make a thread when I complete it now! It looks like I should focus on 'vulnerable/covert' subtype.doi/10.1111/jopy.12303
Maybe something on neuroticism too
| >>1030549 >>1030552
Ah yeah, I forgot to specify but vulnerable/covert is mainly what I'm talking about. That's the type that's most common and also most underdiagnosed
Hope you figure things out g/u/rl, I'd love to hear about your findings when you post them <3
| >>1030583
Thanks g/u/rl! Ok so I did maybe 30 minutes of reading and it looks like treatments aren’t super established. What I saw recommended by one Reddit poster was DBT and I downloaded this one
https://www.reddit.com/r/mentalillness/comments/1g4s8dp/to_those_that_deal_with_suicidal/ls6tudl/
There’s a link on that comment to a pdf. I found a ton on Google scholar too including that doi I posted which would be good to go through, but I don’t have time. I’ll just be reading this.
| >>1030617
Yeah, it's, yk. It's the kinda thing you just gotta live with like most most disirders, but the difference between being able to manage it and being unaware can be night an day. The person I know was having extremely bad breakdowns like twice a week, but since figuring things out and putting some work into it has been just, at peace. She's always been super kind and generally positive, but kinda just stayed alive for others. Now she's alive for herself, and it's amazing
| Of course, as a disclaimer, not saying that will be everyone's experience. Just that, yk, figuring out the stuff you got going on internally really can get you to places you didn't think you'd ever be at
| I love myself tbh
| I printed that books with my brother laser printer (I love it) and I’m planning to read it before bed. Got to bed kinda late though. Thanks for the disclaimer g/u/rl! I do feel Good when I feel like there’s something I can do for my problems, so I’m excited right now. We’ll see.
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| I've been educating myself on NPD last couple months cause of some recent research I saw proving further the ties between ADHD and NPD that talked about how it's a severely underdiagnosed disorder
NPD is highly stigmatized and most people got zero idea wtf it even is, which is where "narcissist" being used as "selfish" comes from, but reading about what it actually is and hearing the experiences of people who have it I can say with confidence that lots have it and don't know