Post number #889748, ID: 75b7b0
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russia-fsb-intelligence-ukraine-war/
Paywall free link: https://archive.ph/w9Hn3
I tried to copypasta this entire article while reading it and found that it's several sections deep. It's probably not impossible since I don't have a capped limit, but it would take awhile and be a nightmare to read through on this website.
The TLDR: Basically, the FSB told the Gremlin that Ukraine was going to be easy, and it turns out it wasn't. Supposedly they knew this beforehand but were afraid of giving Pitler the bad news, and the war went ahead anyway.
By the Ukrainians own account, they are very aware that there are traitors and corruption within their own government, so it was a surprise to some officials that "those he [a Ukrainian official] called not only answered but followed orders with a precision and determination that were rare before the conflict."
“It’s a paradox of the Ukrainian state,” the official said. “It was believed, including by Ukrainians themselves, that there was a high level of corruption, inefficiency and infiltration of Russian agents in the Ukrainian government structures.” But after Feb. 24, he said, “they not only worked but also worked more efficiently than ever.”
Supposedly, "Some complied and sabotaged Ukraine’s defenses, officials said, while others appear to have pocketed their FSB payments but balked at doing the Gremlin’s bidding when the fighting started."
How it started:
Among those making plans to arrive in Kyiv in late February was Igor Kovalenko, identified by Ukraine as a senior FSB officer who had for years been a principal handler of some of the most prominent Ukrainian politicians and government officials secretly on the Gremlin’s payroll, including members of the opposition party co-chaired by Viktor Medvedchuk, a close friend of Pitler. An exchange Kovalenko had with an FSB subordinate on Feb. 18 suggests that he had his eye on an apartment in Kyiv’s leafy Obolon neighborhood, overlooking the Dnieper River.
How it's going:
Kovalenko, the FSB operative who had inquired about a riverside apartment in Kyiv, retreated to Russia with a broken finger and apparent unease about Ukrainian penetrations of his directorate, according to Ukrainian security officials. In communications with relatives that were monitored by Ukrainian intelligence, he spoke about changing phones, switching addresses in Moscow and even selling family vehicles. Then, in late May, he revealed that he was being sent back to Ukraine for another assignment.
One relative responded to the news with a Russian expletive.
Ukrainian officials said they have not been able to determine Kovalenko’s current whereabouts.
Post number #889765, ID: fb4bac
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Proof? Not just "ukrainian told me that", but serious, material proof.
Post number #889767, ID: 85f359
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>>889765 How come you never ask for proof when ruskis posts pro-russian propaganda? Just asking.
Post number #889775, ID: 8229f0
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>all g/u/rls are the same person /new/: schizo containment board
Post number #889776, ID: 48a36c
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>>889748 Interesting read, OP. It mirrors what people have been saying since it became apparent Russia couldn't succeed in capturing Ukraine. It'll be interesting to see how Russia will fair in the future now that the cat is out of the bag, so to speak. The entire world hates the Gremlin and if it weren't for nukes they would already have swooped in and paved it.
Post number #889780, ID: 4d6be1
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There comes a time for every liar when reality hits you like a ton of bricks, and the gremlin found out the hard way. Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
Post number #889784, ID: 61014f
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>>889767 Because Russians provide proofs when they write the news.
Post number #889832, ID: 2f421d
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>>889776 Don't forget China loves Russia. That's a huge chunk of "the entire world".
Post number #889836, ID: eb9795
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>>889776 >The entire world hates the Gremlin Didn't know Europe, core Anglosphere and Japan constituted the entire world.
Post number #889847, ID: fc7070
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>>61014f>>2f421d>>eb9795 You must be against Russia, why are you not!?
Post number #889849, ID: eb9795
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>>889847 (am>>eb9795) I mean, I *am* against Russia, in that I think Russia attempting to annex all of Ukraine is kinda bad. But the reality is that 1) Russian propaganda is aimed more at African and Asian nations, and not The West(tm), so they're more susceptible to it, and 2) nations like Egypt and India are uninvolved in the conflict, so they don't give a shit. Morality means nothing in international relations. Doggy dog world, et cetera.
Post number #890081, ID: 397700
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Gremlin
Post number #890121, ID: 64fcb9
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>>889832 >China loves Russia lol no. China keeps fighting Russia in its own way. They're constantly buying up russian land and replacing the native farmers with chinese ones. It's a huge economic problem in southern and southwestern russia but they can't legally do much about it. Also, russia is very open about china being the enemy.
>>889836 That's a direct quote from Russian defence expert Viktor Shenderovich. If you got a problem with it, take it up with him.
Post number #890122, ID: 64fcb9
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Sorry, the quote is attributed to Russian defence expert Mikhail Khodaryonok.
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| https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russia-fsb-intelligence-ukraine-war/
Paywall free link: https://archive.ph/w9Hn3
I tried to copypasta this entire article while reading it and found that it's several sections deep. It's probably not impossible since I don't have a capped limit, but it would take awhile and be a nightmare to read through on this website.
The TLDR: Basically, the FSB told the Gremlin that Ukraine was going to be easy, and it turns out it wasn't. Supposedly they knew this beforehand but were afraid of giving Pitler the bad news, and the war went ahead anyway.
By the Ukrainians own account, they are very aware that there are traitors and corruption within their own government, so it was a surprise to some officials that "those he [a Ukrainian official] called not only answered but followed orders with a precision and determination that were rare before the conflict."
“It’s a paradox of the Ukrainian state,” the official said. “It was believed, including by Ukrainians themselves, that there was a high level of corruption, inefficiency and infiltration of Russian agents in the Ukrainian government structures.” But after Feb. 24, he said, “they not only worked but also worked more efficiently than ever.”
Supposedly, "Some complied and sabotaged Ukraine’s defenses, officials said, while others appear to have pocketed their FSB payments but balked at doing the Gremlin’s bidding when the fighting started."
How it started:
Among those making plans to arrive in Kyiv in late February was Igor Kovalenko, identified by Ukraine as a senior FSB officer who had for years been a principal handler of some of the most prominent Ukrainian politicians and government officials secretly on the Gremlin’s payroll, including members of the opposition party co-chaired by Viktor Medvedchuk, a close friend of Pitler.
An exchange Kovalenko had with an FSB subordinate on Feb. 18 suggests that he had his eye on an apartment in Kyiv’s leafy Obolon neighborhood, overlooking the Dnieper River.
How it's going:
Kovalenko, the FSB operative who had inquired about a riverside apartment in Kyiv, retreated to Russia with a broken finger and apparent unease about Ukrainian penetrations of his directorate, according to Ukrainian security officials. In communications with relatives that were monitored by Ukrainian intelligence, he spoke about changing phones, switching addresses in Moscow and even selling family vehicles. Then, in late May, he revealed that he was being sent back to Ukraine for another assignment.
One relative responded to the news with a Russian expletive.
Ukrainian officials said they have not been able to determine Kovalenko’s current whereabouts.