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Ukrainian forces establishes bases and operates weapons systems in populated residential areas, says Amnesty International

| >Researchers found evidence of Ukrainian forces launching strikes from within populated residential areas as well as basing themselves in civilian buildings in 19 towns and villages in the regions. The organization’s Crisis Evidence Lab has analyzed satellite imagery to further corroborate some of these incidents.


| >>“Being in a defensive position does not exempt the Ukrainian military from respecting international humanitarian law.” said Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International’s Secretary General.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/


| Honestly, I care less about the event than the deluge of asspain Amnesty has caused by daring to mention - relatively minor in comparison with the attackers' - breaches of the rules of war.
Take one single look.
https://twitter.com/amnesty/status/1555102962623594496


| Well DUH... Populated residental areas are being targeted by the Russians so of course you need to set up military in the area in order to protect said area. This isn't the scandal russian bots wants it to be.


| It sucks and it's against international law, but the Ukrainian government have openly welcomed any and all investigations regarding war crimes against both sides of the conflict. The same can't be said of the Russian aggressors.


| But I guess OP just wanted to whine about whiners on Twitter, for some reason ...


| Shouldn't this be expected of any war? I guess this is just to bring more emotions from both sides


| >>886469
Please walk me trough the notion that Amnesty International sole reason for investigating and releasing suspected war crimes is to "bring more emotions from both sides".


| >>886445
>Take one single look and let your confirmation bias do the thinking for you.

Nice try OP but you ain't fooling anyone.


| >>886450
Russian war correspondent openly says on the Russian state TV channel that Russian army prefers to fight in the city:"It's easier to hide from artillery in the city than in the field".

В программе «60 минут» у Скабеевой прямо заявляют, что армия РФ специально стремится к тому, чтобы воевать в жилой городской застройке. Потому что прикрываться мирными жителями для «освободителей» предпочтительнее и безопаснее, чем воевать за городом.

https://youtu.be/Azao_sAGu-k


| It seems like both sides agrees that the best course of action is to hide in the cities.

What are the alternatives? Should Ukrainian soldiers go out in the fields and expose themselves for Russian strikes? What should our soldiers do when Russian storm the cities? Just walk away?

There is no neutrality in this war. You either support Ukraine who fights to survive this genocide or you support Russia who wages aggressive, imperialistic war of conquest.


| We do what we must to SURVIVE a war with an opponent who don't value life and outguns and outnumbers us in every way.

It's shameful how an organization that positions itself as the one that values human rights and lives sides with the aggressor in this war and shames the victim for trying to repel the invasion of literally sadistic fascist maniacs.

They're raping women, murdering babies, razing cities, murdering POWs. Russia is a terrorist state.


| ^Copied form the twitter thread because I thought it was a valid point to share.


| >>886470 Not that it inherently does, it's not meant to target people to either promote higher sentiments towards Ukraine or Russia. It's only stating certain Ukrainian military tactics have shown violations of rules of conflict/potentially may lead to war crimes.

Also, like they've said: "Such violations in no way justify Russia's indiscriminate attacka, which have killed and injured civilians"



| >>886484 but because of the subject matter in question (rules of warfare, treatment of civilians, etc.) it will disconnect from it's intended purpose in highlighting the dangers of warfare. And like>>886473 copied from Twitter, alongside the other examples from the link, it has broken down into either promoting (dominated so) favoring Ukraine and not considering the risks in question of these Ukraine tactics in question.


| However, yeah- Fuck Russia, and cities have become ideal places for weapons, vehicles, troops, etc.

It's much harder to hit something that is hidden in complex city spaces compared to a random field where it's all flat and you can artillery shell the shit out of everything with ease.


| I don't care.
Russia's gov and military (not the russian people) are still the bad guys. Stay mad Z-ombies


| >>886484
>Not that it inherently does
Exactly.

I didn't bother with the rest of your post because who the fuck asked?


| I can feel a scenario where the fighting and war crimes per minute get so high on bth sides that eu will cut off it's support. Aren't we still sucking on Russia's natural gas titty juice?


| >>886508 On the gas subject, yeah: "The Russian energy giant has cut the flows to only a fifth of the pipeline's capacity, citing technical issues and a need for repair of the pipeline turbines."

Reuters 'Russia's Gazprom: sanctions make delivery of Nord Stream turbine impossible': https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russias-gazprom-sanctions-make-delivery-nord-stream-turbine-impossible-2022-08-03/


| "The European Union faces the risk of further gas supply cuts from Russia, due to the Gremlin's weaponisation of gas exports(...)"

European Union 'Save Gas for a Safe Winter: Commission proposes gas demand reduction plan to prepare EU for supply cuts':
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_4608


| >>886450
> Populated residental areas are being targeted by the Russians
Yes, because there was the enemy. At least russians didn't bomb cities because they are able to do so. But americans did it. Yugoslavia, Siria, Iraq, )ry.


| >>886553 and there's no enemy if russian didn't invade, my friend. Maybe try not to be a dick and invade other country next time before complaining how you are "forced" to shell populated areas.


| >>886639
>other country
>ukraine
it's a domestic peacekeeping operation :^)


| RETURN EASTERN KARELIA
RETURN PETSAMO
RETURN SALLA
BOMB THE RUSSIAN OCCUPIER


| >>886639
Oh, right, Dombass people bombed themself for many years. I forgot that.


| >>886717 don't deflect. Ukraine commiting their own war crimes doesn't make Russia's disappear


| >>886733
Since when bombing enemy soldiers is war crime?


| >>886717 It's ukraine sovereign teritory, acknowledged by the world. When some separatist movement appears in your teritory, what else you gonna do? Wait until your neigbour come and take it away?


| >>886717
No they weren't bombed enough


| >>886778 I dunno, maybe let the people living there have some self-determination like the UN charter tells you?


| >>886832 what part of UN charter that lets you walk in to other country because they are unable to settle separatist movement peacefully?

Come one now, don't bring up UN charter when you are on the side of a country that started a war.


| >>886778 tbh I support making Donbass and Luhansk into autonomous regions, but after Crimea I certainly am not going to be vocal about it.


| >>886847 The that was changed in order to make separatist movement in kosovo legal, so UN civilians don't asked questions.


| *The one

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