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| Hopefully we get a new original CoD off of this, but an original CoD hasn’t happened in a long time.
| No, noone is fucking around with a nuclear power
| Also a ukranian gave me chlamydia russia can have em
| Russia is currently moving to 'denazify' Ukraine.
| Common, the crimea and the eastern regions wouldn't have been able to reconquer by ukraine army without killing many and oppressing all pro-russian separatists. Or how do you think could have an alternative look like?
| >>835126 That's just part of the misinformation campaign from Russia, they recently have been trying to make russians think Ukraine is a nazi country that wants to attack russia.
| >>835221
it's not at all a justification for invasion but ukraine does have a lot of neo nazis in their military and militias
| >>835303
Russian army doesn't?
Military and Police always have been popular for neonazis all over the world. It aligns very well with their social-darwinist views. Additionally those institutions also serve the purpose of protecting the political-economical status quo against revolutionary movements. This makes them a natural ally to neo-nazis. Russia is no exception from that anymore.
| Most people never cared about the Jemen, Ethopia, Mali, etc. Why do they care about the ukraine now? I don't understand. Are people in ukraine more important than others?
| >>835544
This is the first open aggression in Europe since the ww2. And Russia decided to switch sides this time.
| >Yugoslavia and Georgia: guess we didn't exist
| >>835547
Even if this was true (which isn't) why is war in Europe worse than elsewhere? I think from a third world perspective it could be a signal that the destructive proxy-wars by north/western countries in the global south may relax a bit when they are focused on their realm.
| We don't care about Ethiopia because it's not our fucking doorstep. Most people connected are from the West. The end.
| >>835577
>I think from a third world perspective
How about from a European perspective? Does that answer your question, faggot?
| >"Hurr durr who does European care so much about a war on European soil hurr durr Russia are the good guys."
| American here, Europeans can get pegged. We left that shithole for a reason
| Anti-War protest happening now in St. Petersburg, Russia. It's amazing to see how many people have shown up! Brave Russians...all of them.
https://i.imgur.com/hdfnpkF.mp4
| >>835543
it isn't to say russia (and other countries) don't also host neo nazis and other fascists but pointing out that armed forces in ukraine in particular have an issue with willfully incorporating neo nazis into their forces (ex: azov battalion)
| Why bombing Yugoslavia is OK (with thousands of victims), but invading (not bombing) Ukraine (with minimal number of dead civilians) it's not OK?
| >>83567
None is ok, but Yugo is history, Ukraine is now.
Also you get more comedy if you are in Russia, public statements from officials are downright retarded and dont make sense. Shame that now there is no future here, I dont have enough experience for normal job abroad.
| >>835706
Unfortunately, the only thing this invasion is going to accomplish is bottoming out the Russian economy.
Better learn to garden, homie.
| Fuck.
| >>835622
European perspective is overrepresented, which is only justified due to historical, economical and military reasons. Europe has only 9% of global population, the USA not even 5%.
Almost 60% of global population lives an Asia and 17% in Africa. It's just logical that the significance of European and North-American perspective will loose significance.
https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2018/09/Population-cartogram_World-2-e1538912000147.png
| For most parts in the world the war in Ukraine is an unimportant skirmish. They are used to have such conflicts for much longer and much more intensity. And the policy by European/US world minority rarely played a constructive role. They can be glad that russia puts the imperalists shitshow directly on the european continent instead of exporting it to their realm.
| >>835735 perhaps, but this website, specifically, is mainly European/westerners.
You saw how much interest there was in the Pakistan thread. Many people on here aren't even aware they're in tension with India.
Bemoaning that Europeans are interested in a European situation is sort of pointless isn't it?
| >>835738
Not only this website. There is something called the "digital gap". Because of my family, I have strong relations to rwanda. You know the country with the actual genocide no one in the north/west cared for. Well, except their weapons industry.
However, only caring for issues in your backyard is a very dumb attitude. The responsible decision makers think and operate in a more global way. And that's the more important aspect of the ukraine crisis: Imperialistic Geopolitics.
| >>835743
Do you also go to rwandan and pakistani people and bemoan to them about how they don't care about Ukraine, and how stupid their attitudes are?
| >>835645 the Azov battalion kinda doesn't give a shit who they recruit. They have Jews and a whole bunch of foreigners serving in their ranks. That's kinda what they're for.
| >>835816
Now they are bomb the military facilities. Not the capital with civilians. Meanwhile Ukraine has soldiers inside buildings where is also civilian people. They are using they own people like a shield.
| >>835821
Kyiv's being bombed too.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk./world-news/2022/02/25/ukraine-russia-invasion-news-war-putin-nato-kyiv-latest/
| We should kick out the somalis etc to make more place for incoming Ukrainian refugees
| So the British intelligence services says that if Ukraine can hold out 10 days, Russia will run out of supplies & money. They already are running low on their rockets and don't have the infrastructure to support the continued operation.
This war is likely going to break Russia as a world power.
| Azor is now killing kids
| >>836139 can you stop being such a schizo though? you called me the commie samefag too in another thread. maybe there are trolls here, but don't be delusional that the Russian gov gives a shit about this textboard that's frequented by less than a hundred people.
| >>836252
>but don't be delusional that the Russian gov gives a shit about this textboard that's frequented by less than a hundred people.
To some people now everywhere and everything is russian propaganda which is uncomfortable to their world view.
| >>836252 >>836313 >>836314
The Ukrainians are strong, and every blown up BMP makes you seethe even harder. This will fuck up Russian economy and I'm laughing in your face about it.
| >>836317
If they are so strong, why they cry so loud for economical and military support?
I don't see why one would spent a single cent to this european third world country led by corrupt oligarchs.
Western media already lied several times about the "rebels" during the arab spring, which in fact were mostly islamists and not fighters for a liberal democracy.
Whistleblowsers who make western war crimes public are persecuted and locked away.
Why should I believe now in western media?
| Let's face the fact: Putins agression is possible because western politics paved the way for this kind of policy. His propaganda can only be successful because the west failed to fulfill it's proudly propagated values way too often and to massive. Putins war on ukraine is not only unmaskin his stupid russian imperialism but also the hypocrisy in the west. They're now acting as if it Putin is the first and only one who crossed a line against peace and humanism.
| >>836341
I envy you for your simple worldview:
Russia=evil everythingelse=good
Germany is now about to shift from evil bad russian gas to good gas from democracy, peace and freedom bringers bringers like USA and Qatar.
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-russia-gas-ukraine-crisis-nord-stream/amp/
So glad, that germany finally will recieve gas from countries which love freedom, peace and democracy over all and unlike evil Russia.
| >>836317
Seems like your strong Ukrainians are now about to surrender:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-peace-talks-agreement-b2024381.html
| >>836351
>The announcement comes as Russian troops continue their attempted takeover of Ukrainian capital Kyiv, after having failed to do so since Vladimir Putin launched an invasion on Thursday.
>“We have withstood and are successfully repelling enemy attacks. The fighting goes on,” Mr Zelensky said in a video message from the streets of Kyiv.
LOL
LOL more like they FUCKING FAILED TO TAKE THE COUNTRY
Now monkey putin is forced to waggle the nuclear sword to be taken seriously
| >MUH EVIL NATO
Fucking cope so hard. This is like Winter war 2.0 small country Ukraine fought off big fucking army with nothing but grits and MANPADS
Russki invades then gets its economy fucked to shreds by sanctions, CANNOT take anything from Zelensky, international community is sick of the cunt, and putin-chan has nothing to show for it! Delicious!
Out of swift out of gas and the probe digs up russian oligarch assholes! Then shills cry about it on the internet! Great fun!
| >>836372
Russian being bad doesn't make NATO good. It's as stupid as people still praise Stalin because he was the head of the USSR when it beat the nazis. Or even worse: People who praise the nazis because they invaded the stalinist USSR. This oversimplified good/evil scheme lair thinking is poisonous and does not offer any reasonable solution.
People can be against russian imperialism AND ukraininan nationalism (or nationalism in general) And Pacifisim is an universal thing.
| >>836372
>digs up russian oligarch assholes!
In favour of other oligarch assholes. Congratulations! Beside that not all russian oligarchs are putin supporters.
| >>836378
You don't understand that I don't care about anything you have to say because your opinion is objectively SHIT. Nothing you can say will make me not support Ukraine.
You'll have to cry about it in a socialist subleddit thread I guess.
| WAAH! WAAH! YOU NAZI! YOU CORRUPT! YOU BAAD! WHY DON'T YOU LET YOURSELF BE INVADED! AAAAH DON'T FIGHT BACK!! NOOO DON'T FUCK UP MY INVASION PLANS!! STOP DEFENDING YOUR COUNTRY!!!! AAAAH NOOO!!!
| >>836384
>Nothing you can say will make me not support Ukraine.
Even if it becomes a russian puppet state?
| I wonder why the west doesn't support the kurdish people with the same engagement like they do support ukrainian people...
| >>836410
No. The ukraine never belonged to the west and it never will. To the west ukraine is the same as to russia: Just another third world country with some fossil resources in a geostrategical relevant position with some unimportant people living there led by corrupt politicians and oligarchs.
| >>836459
I don't know why you think that. We consider Ukraine part of Europe, and a significant one too. I think, perhaps, because whatever shithole you live in isn't relevant to the world at large, that the west excludes everyone.
Want to know how you win the west's sympathy? You fight. There's a reason Japan has been dear to the hearts of American society since 1950. It's because they fought, hard. Sure there was some hatred and racism, but there was also respect.
| >>836501
As we can see not everyone wins the west's sympathy through fighting...
And your geopolitical undestanding is just naive. Sympathy has no relevance. Japan is - just like Taiwan - just a big aircraft carrier for the USA. Don't make the mistake to believe that the oligarchy in the USA is interested in anyones freedom except their own. For them democracy and freedom are only an option as long the status quo of their reign is not threatened.
| >>836501
When I grew up I knew ukraine only from two things:
- Charity events and actions (along with mostly african development countries)
- Cossacks (the rts videogame, where ukraine is a playable faction - because it's developed there)
Ukraine never played a role for the west until Russia turned into a big gas station and ukraine became the pipeline.
| >>836503
How can you be so sure that it isn't the other way arround? Your friend/enemy scheme is nothing but the result of the same propaganda narratives that russian and western propaganda have in common.
"We are the good ones, which justifies doing bad stuff to others, who are the bad ones".
Don't act as if imperialistic warfare disguised as "Combat missions" for "National sovereignty", "peoples self determination", "freedom", "democracy", "humanism" were invented by Putin.
| >>836635
Man, you've got your head so far into this conspiracy shit, you can't even differentiate between a society's will and a couple idiots. Oligarchs exist, true. But they have less control over western nations than you think, and don't have the ability to force their will like the ones in 'communist' countries do.
| >>836635
Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean that they've been brainwashed or deceived. Sometimes it means they just disagree, and sometimes it means *you're* wrong.
| Nigger's about to tell me it was Ukraine who invaded russia...
| >>836640
>But they have less control over western nations than you think
I'm sure they have more control than you think - even more about non-western nations. They supported and coorporate with the worst whacky dictators as it suits their businesses.
>And don't have the ability to force their will
They just have a more advanced abilities and possibilities to do it.
>like the ones in 'communist' countries
So russia suddenly became a communist country again? Did I miss something?
| >>836641
I know that. But same same goes the other way arround doesn't it? It's not like I'm never confronted with allegations being "brainwashed" through kremlin/russian/putin/communist/evil/satanist propaganda by people who live in their bubbles abd echo-chambers filled with ideologically comfortable opinions and false facts.
| >>836641
I'm very aware about russian propaganda as well. And I'm shocked about how much influence and acceptance it gained on many people in the west. On the other hand I also see many similarities in it's style with right-wing populism, which is also continuously increasing its influence in western societies. It's possible that Trump becomes US-president again. And it's no secret that he fundamentally opposes many "values" western politicians legitimates their interventionism.
| I just don't want to live in a world where I only can chose between two options which really aren't options. To me the worlds leaders failed horribly to make things better after the soviet downfall. Instead there was only degeneration and fallback into schemes of the past. Putins aggression is not an autonomous spawn from hell, like it's now portrayed in the west as a welcomed opportunity to distract from their own failures. Denying this causal relations is just insincere.
| I am going to declare war on semen.
| >>836670
>semen
Yemen you mean? Done already. By the EVIL SEMEN IMPERIALISTS!! THE PENIS PLEASURERS!!!
| >>836640
Russian Propaganda:
We don't make war. It's a "special operation" to fight evil people and defend our country and people. Everyone who says something different gets beaten and locked in.
Western Propaganda:
We don't make war. It's a "humanitarian operation" to fight terrorism and tyranny to support democracy and freedom. Everyone who says something different is hippie/commie/ru propaganda. Fortunately majority still has bread and games and believes in hollywood and disney.
| >>836674
I'm glad not living in a society that produces people who are dumb enough to question this. Or constructing a rocket to find it out themselves...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655
| >>836681
And open our mind to the Jewish international conspiracy while I'm at it.
Globe earthers limited mind confirmed
| So much of me not reading this thread is fear of mistakenly falling for anyones bullshit
| >>836699 One side wants land to protect itself from "supposed" danger, the other wants to join a union nobody wants it to be a part of.
Politics don't care about your opinions and ethics, much Russia and much Ukraine can die-out already. They both suck.
| >>836703
Why "supposed"? NATO members are no strangers to destabilize and overthrow governments and invade countries that oppose their political-economical interests.
I agree that opinions and ethics don't play a role in politics. That's just naive bedtime stories for the simple minded. For most people foreign politics only play a role if internal politics suffers from issues that can only be solved through fundamental changes they are afraid off. This also applies to russia ofc...
| I have declared war on semen.
I am now deploying a T-84 onto the testicles.
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