The Kremlin Disinformation Methods in Its War Against Ukraine
| Russian disinformation has also targeted Ukraine for decades, aimed at trying to make Moscow look good and the West appear aggressive. The downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine in 2014 was the textbook case. Russian media spun out a range of conspiracy theories to explain the tragedy, from the somewhat-plausible to the absurd.
| The Dutch Joint Investigation Team, which conducted the criminal investigation into the crash, concluded that the aircraft was brought down by a Buk missile system that ultimately belonged to and was operated by the Russian army.
| WHAT ARE THE METHODS USED BY PRO-KREMLIN OUTLETS?
Promoting unverified stories:
Russian media have a history of promoting emotive content and questionable claims that portray Ukraine in a negative light.
Portraying Ukraine as pro-Nazi:
Suggesting that Ukraine is a country aligned with Nazism has been a regular feature of Russian media coverage.
| Readers’ comments used to represent public opinion:
In recent weeks, some Russian state media outlets have featured misleading headlines about international support for Ukraine based solely on user comments on Western media sites.
Using Western voices to exaggerate support for Russia:
Activity on accounts spreading pro-Russian propaganda increased dramatically in November last year, according to research from the counter-disinformation group Mythos Labs.
| One tactic – as noted by researchers – was to share material from non-Russian voices with views that fall in line with Moscow’s stance.
| https://euvsdisinfo.eu/the-kremlins-playbook-fabricating-pretext-to-invade-ukraine-more-myths/
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/disinformation-about-the-current-russia-ukraine-conflict-seven-myths-debunked/
How to behave against bullshitters:
https://www.truthorfiction.com/how-to-fight-disinformation-introduction-and-overview/
| Useful links if you want to know more about Russias disinformation practices and how to combat them:
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/
https://informnapalm.org/ - Available in many languages
https://www.harvard.edu/in-focus/managing-misinformation/ - Fucking Harvard University
https://www.counteringdisinformation.org/
https://mythoslabs.org/ - Very accessible. They even have comedy and feel-good moments under their Projects tab.
| Bruh moment. My boi Putin shouldn't be this wicked. He's trying to make that war against Ukraine no matter what.
Just because he wants to.
| https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/01/15/ukra-j15.html
| >>>ba4268
Are you gonna say anything with that URL you dropped or ... ?
Because if you don't it looks like you're attempting:
>Promoting unverified stories:
>Russian media have a history of promoting emotive content and questionable claims that portray [insert democratic country here] in a negative light.
Makes you look kinda desperate, desu.
| I used to listen to russian songs, but I don't do that anymore
| >>834479 I still listen to russian songs! My favourite is "blue wagon" from Cheburashka.
Russians and everyone should learn from that beautiful song to not do violence or war!
We all should be uniting as one humanity and helping others, while hoping the future will be better...
Anyways! Here's that song!
https://youtu.be/srN_ZlTibUA
I love it.
| Thanks for the bump, fellas! The more people that bookmark OPs links the better.
They're useful if you want to know *exactly* how Russian disinformation methods operate, and how to combat them. With a little bit of informed reading you will become a master at catching and destroying these liars.
| bump
| Lol, why Ukraine posts so much of fake news?
| As a russian, i can say how people "justify" the war.
They call ukranians nazis and say they need to be turned away from europe.
Also when they see someone saying "no to war", they alway say the same: BuT UkRaInE WaS ShElLiNg DoNbAsS FOR 8 YEARS!!1 And where you were when US was interventind in Syria????????
They also call all photos of destruction either fake or claim that its ukranian nationalist doing that.
And they think they fight nationalists and not "normal ukranian people"
| “everyone who disagrees with me is a kremlin bot” the thread
| Doesn't that disinformation only work on their own citizens?
| >>840039 the convoy in Canada is supporting Pitler for some reason, so I think it definitely works on people outside Russia if they're brain-dead.
| Funny desu
| Pitler
| How about we discuss western governments' propaganda methods?
| Thank you for playing Half Life Episode more than two but less than four. I hope you enjoy yourself and it was worth the wait.
| Hi from Ukraine everyone. I've been without light all day and without orcs so its good day :)
| Feels good without that pigs posting cringe here. Glad to know that they have everyday blackout.
| Russian women are beautiful.
| Hello, Pitler here. Did you know: Ukraine has killed over 65 million people?
Huh... Why does that number seem familiar? It's almost as if it's the number of people that William Hearst says that communism has killed...
| >>935598 are you counting deaths as a result of Soviet rule or did 65 million just now expire. What is this dipshit trying to pull?
| Jugoslavia, Syria, Iraq. No one cares.
Ukraine gets fucked for killing civilian. OMG, poor country!
| hoes mad
| Я русский
| >>935809 I was making a joke about disinformation in the past. A news company in the 1900s said the 65 million number as a clickbait headline as part of a propaganda campaign. They have recently done stuff like spread antivax and anti-abortion headlines, so money is probably their only priority.
| >>936167 but but there are more civilian casulties!!!
but which side is funding these efforts to document them?
| USA #1 terrorist nation
| Ukraine is to blame
| Russians are the ones who attacked first, both times. That's pretty much all to this war.
| Russians save Ukrainians from the Nazi government
| just kill them all on both sides world would be a better place with no russias
give ukraine to poland give west russia to finland give east russia to mongols
| if russia didn't attacked/annexed since 2014 and let ukrain do their own gaz and petrol and transport it using the famous pipeline, would it be really that bad for russia ? I thought that thanks to climate change they were going to have enough ressources to survive isolated from the rest of the world
| lmao so obvious a troll farm was called on this one, half of these replies aren't even about the thread, just disconnected propaganda dumped in here
average ruski English skills don't help either
| I saw a news article about how AI was getting better at relating to and having the opinions of the teenagers of this era. The comments that look like obvious bots have the most based and obvious political stances.
| Good thread time to post it on competitor forum
| Хохла порвало
| And as a result, everyone sucks. I am really tired of this hatred stuff from all sides. Some lie about bad Ukrainians, although in fact most of them are ordinary guys, with their own thoughts, life, study and work. Others lie about Russians, exposing them as bloodthirsty monsters, although in fact most of them are the same ordinary guys with the same work, study and thoughts.
| Still others try to appear to be political experts, being the devil knows where, pretending that they don't give a shit at all, while simultaneously making memes and giggling with everything that happening. Everything that happens is completely surreal and blaming ordinary people who just want to live, live normally, on both sides is idiocy. We live in such a world, most of us are unlikely to be able to change something for the better.
| And those who spread hatred, from ALL sides, will get prostate cancer and curse on diarrhea 666.
| All of you are fucking crazy. Ukraine isn't even real: it's an alien psyop to see how much they can get you to care about a nation you've never even seen before.
They're laughing at you from the mothership.
| Хохлы все пидарасы ёбаные блять
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| just stop fighting
| Пусть хохлы сдадуться, хули
| Соснули? Бахмут теперь наш
| It never stops, eh ?
| maybe
| ım
| nabıyon
| Ты еблан?
| Enjoy your day
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-QHha1zko1A&pp=ygUPTGl0dGxlIGJpZyBhazQ3
| Pitler is gonna take the world out with him. He's old and afraid of dying from cancer or his ministrokes that he has been having.
That's why nukes are suddenly on the table.
| Ну пиздец, модератор без причины взял и закрыл единственный нормальный тред на этой доске.
| Модераторы тут в целом пидорасы
| homeless man calling another homeless man a broke ass nigga: the war
| i dont fuckin give a shit about ukraine or russia
| Я вообще делаю айсберг по интернету и туда добавлю этот сайт
| Both sides are doing the same. When power and money is at stake, the truth has no place. That is why it is healthy not caring too much about the "news".
The war's only stake is which set of oligarchs get to steal from which set of peasants.
It's simply sad, I wish it would end sooner than later.
| desperate replies from desperate russian troll farms lmao
| Every military action will be covered with a mask of propaganda and lies from both sides of the conflict. We will never know the truth.
| >>972195
nah, the truth is that ruzzia is guilty of war crimes and is trying to lie trough the teeth about it and everything else. they're guilty and _everyone_ knows it.
how much are they paying you for trolling this thread awyway? 40 rubels per hour? lol
| Why was this thread unlocked anyway?
| It's war, you think war crimes from all sides isn't normal? The only thing is the "good guys" war crimes are ignored
| На восточном фронте без перемен
| When fighting a war, no side is good, no matter how it look. War itself is evil.
| >>978123
Starting wars is evil though.
Like what Pitler's Russia did.
Russia is an evil terrorist state.
| Usa is an evil terrorist state.
| >>982878
They're the lesser of 3 evils but they're no terrorists.
ruzzia on the other hand is undeniably a terrorist state.
| Yo' mama's a terrorist state.
| >>978123
That implies defending against the aggressor is bad, because it makes wars longer.
Only a terrorist could say that.
| >>983734 Да вот хуй его знает. Есть же всё-таки те пендосы, у которых мозги есть. По крайней мере должны быть...
| Nah buddy, the west has some terrorists but they're mostly just christian fanatics or right wing dipshits. I'm interested in learning more about current events in Russia though. Y'all have an interesting history and it's a shame how each and every government you've had keeps its people in relative shackles.
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| “Dangerous opinions” like…. Putler is just as bad as Voldemort!!! ???? ???? ♿️♿️♿️♿️♿️♿️
| Russia won
| >>984633 Here in the west we have people who shoot up elementary schools for fun! It's only a matter of time before some group of fanatics start crashing planes into buildings again because their election was 'stolen'. Half of our population is lowkey terrorist.
| All those who participate in war, attacking or defending, are evil. There can be no just war.
| >>989651 Black and White take, not a good one at that. You're basically saying that if for example one country is the clear aggressor it's a just as bad for the recipient of that violence to defend their lives and their land. So in a roundabout way you just equated every country that fought against Nazi Germany as being just as bad. Cringe.
| 你妈死了
| >>24fc66 Great Britain and France aren't America either, but it turns out that helping both of them in WW1 was well within the interest of the United States. What kind of dipshit take is that? We're not fighting their war. Turns out there's a whole world outside of the US (who knew, right?) and that world would be better off if countries like Russia didn't get their way. Next you're going to say that we shouldn't have stepped foot in the Atlantic theatre cuz' Europe isn't America.
| That only makes sense if you win. If the only thing you get is massive inflation and domestic political instability you done Fucked up Cletus (kagan). Meanwhile you’re committing a genocide against Palestine so obviously the us gov and the faction that controls it is the cancer that is killing earth
| >>5248f8
Another well established tactic: moving goalposts, diverting the conversation from the initial intention.
Anyways, I really liked Kenya's UN response in the beginning of the war. Just search it.
Peace requires understanding, resorting to violence will always result in more violence. We all know what sparked both these wars.
| >>5248f8
Another well established tactic: moving goalposts, diverting the conversation from the initial intention.
Anyways, I really liked Kenya's UN response in the beginning of the war. Just search it.
Peace requires understanding, resorting to violence will always result in more violence. We all know what sparked both these wars.
| Russia, EU, and the United States are a cancer upon this earth. I hope those governments collapse soon. But even more derranged is pretending one is better than the other or that Moscow and Washington constantly playing a geopolitical game of chicken isn't what is ultimately responsible for the Ukraine mess. Anyone pushing the "zmog ruzzia putler is eebil" stuff is just brainwashed. What about Bush? What about Obama?
| >>984633
>history
Did you just watched Tucker's interview? Lol.
Anyway, to understand this situation you have to do this shit:
-Watch different American news and write down their points.
-Watch different Russian news and write down their points.
-Then compare them.
Don't listen to Ukrainian news, apparently they live in a fantasy world.
But to get it better, watch also to some Arabian and Israeli media. Europe just repeat American, Belarus repeat Russian.
| Will Ukrain lose? If so, will Russia stop expand? If not, which country will be the next?
| How long Ukraine survive?
| >>1010662
Hard to tell. Question, why did Russia go in hot on Ukraine? This article goes into detail. Important backdrop.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/russia-nato-conflict/
Will Russia expand next? That depends on what geopolitical position they find themselves post-war. I doubt they have any interest in further military expansion considering how costly Ukraine has been for them.
Russia won't do things that is not in her self interest.
| Hhjjjj
| >>1011513
Ukraine's military is heading for collapse if something drastic doesn't change. At this point, conventional non-guerrilla armed struggle isn't really feasible and they've all but lost the war at the conventional level. If they continue on the current path, its likely the frontline will collapse soon.
>>1027379
Without help, Ukraine has no chance. At least in a conventional fight.
| Is the Gremlin a real palce? Discuss
| WTF I saw this thread and though to myself "the gremlin???" but the title is normal?
I think a gremlin is manipulating us! Maybe using the same tactics like:
Downing aircraft
Conspiracy theories
promoting emotive stories that aren't sure to be true
talking to commentors
becoming a nazi and a ukrainian too
Let's watch out and NOT live in russia and be rich.
| Linus Torvalds is a KGB agent
| Love to masturbate
| not today or tomorrow
SOMETHING will agree that all manmking should rule itself in peace
some place beneath the stars or wells, or mayber, above tha stairway to heaven by led zepellin, the one that flies above our heads.
| You guys should understand that there is no good propaganda. It's a war between 2 corrupt shiteholes. You don't need to pick a side.
| I think the russia is much worse because they have more corruption as I understand it and torture and kill more of their people who try to stop that -the second statement is better proven.
Sometimes both sides ARE equally bad though! Particularly when one is only speaking about badness or goodness in one main domain. She might be right russia is equally poor- but the important thing is Ukraine has less torture and can develop more.
| And that’s the really important thing! Is to quantify statements and work for the less bad thing I think! I recently watched the Paul Harrell video on mass shootings, and I think that was something I took away from it. That it’s bad to say ‘I need my solution completely!’ Unless everyone already agrees with you. Rather, it’s good to find common goals and take options which move towards those common goals. And corrupt shitholes are bad and we want to stop the worst one getting bigger
| cause of shaking?
| Are you winning cynok?
| the internet is the terror-ist
| Ukraine is fucked either way.
| Do you really think so? Estonia and such did better after getting away from Russia. They just need to have children and grow the industries after achieving independence. Maybe the standard of living will be worse for 15 years vs before the war, but the conditions for growth should exist after breaking away
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| The volume of Russian disinformation seeking to frame Ukraine as a threat to justify military action by Russia has more than doubled in the past weeks. Russian state-linked social media and news outlets are amplifying claims – without evidence – of attacks and plots blamed on Ukrainian forces against Russian separatists.
The Kremlin has a track record of using false information to create confusion and doubt when trying to avoid blame for an attack or to create an excuse to act.