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| Personally, my political interests are mostly built off my belief that there should be a minimal safety net in society that keeps people above poverty and insures they can participate in our economy. We all deserve universal healthcare and universal income. And I'll keep voting for the democrats until we get it.
| Cause I know the GOP has a fundamentally different philosophy: that it isn't the government's job to make people's lives better and that the free market should do it itself. But the free market alone will never solve this fundamental need, so government needs to step up. Just my two cents. Peace, I'm out.
| Yanks
| Based OP
| >Peace, I'm out
Same
| >>767771 Can I convince you to stop voting for Democrats until they actually put these things in their platform? Most other countries have already figured out things like universal healthcare. U.S. Democrats don't want these things, why do we keep voting for them to do it?
| Vote 3rd party bitch
Aryan Nordic model ftw
| >>767919
> Can I convince you to stop voting for Democrats
If you can counter with a viable alternative, then yes. Otherwise, no.
The only people in congress who wants universal healthcare and safety nets for poverty to become reality are some of the currently seated Democrats. They are still a minority in their party but they are the only one's in power who are working towards it, hence why I support their efforts.
| >>767936 The alternative is not voting and letting them lose until they change their policies to get you to vote for them. The Justice Dems had a chance to force a vote of universal healthcare but they all caved. Something I've been thinking about is, Trump was the closest the US ever got to universal care when he said he wants what Australia has. If he actually adopted med4all and/or UBI into the republican platform, would I vote for him??
| >>768057
> The alternative is not voting
Dumb. It doesn't work that way. 50% of the American public are already non-voters and it's *ridiculous* to claim that refusing to vote and letting the universal healthcare supporters lose will lead to universal healthcare...
Do you not know how the political process works?? Because you sound really fucking lost there, friend.
| >>768080 The way you're talking is unacceptable if you want people to take your side. If what you want is not in the party platform, automatically giving your vote to that party will not change the platform. This is why I stopped voting and just left the US to find another country with universal healthcare. I'm not even rich, I'm poor as fuck, but I never want to return to the shitty healthcare system of the US now that have access to a great system.
| Even the slightest mention of politics already attracts yanks babbling about them with no context
| Is that... POLITICS??? OOOOH!!! I'M VOOTING!!!!!!!
| >>768095 The thing about yank politics is, even if you live in other countries you're a victim of the US foreign policy
| chad.png
>asks for healthcare for all
>doesn't vote
>leaves
| The problem is politians have no practical knowledge of economics and industry and they simply believe that by adding layers and layers of laws they can accomplish things.
| >asks for healthcare for all
>votes
>votes
>votes
>votes
>votes
>votes
>still no healthcare
>dies
| >>768331
It's meant to be taken as in overall, as finding politicians with said knowledge and who make good use of it are few and far in between.
| >>dcede2
This is the most retarded attempt at backtracking I have ever seen.
Admit it. You're >>29969f with a new ID, right?
| >>768355 &>>768368
If a lightbulb is said to use electricity to emit light... Is the one who claims it is inaccurate wise or not. (Abstracted concepts vs concrete details.)
| There isn't really any earnest discussion to be had on universal topics. It really just comes down to personal demeanor and principles not data.
Nobody wants to talk about some boring as fuck analysis in good faith, questioning methodology with some understandings of the field with a willingness to concede to get a truth.
It's either the blacks, the welfare queens, the technocrats, the capitalists, the ((them)), the whites, the gays and it's all masturbatory.
| >>768505 yep there's gotta be a guilty party for all problems and there can never be willingness to concede in any discussion no matter how small
| >>768525 nah even if you concede you will be needlesly shamed, hell you dont even need to concede, be partially wrong or misquote something and thats enough.
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| I just think you all need to be less spergish about how you post. We can have civil conversations on this site without every exchange needing to be antagonistic. Not everything is left/right, sometimes people autistically mix and match things from both ends of the political spectrum.