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Lessons I'm going to teach my future kids
| 1. Seize the Means of Production
2. Seize the Means of Production
3. Seize the Means of Production
| Have sex and have fun.
| >>758581
>1. Seize the Means of Reproduction
>2. Seize the Means of Reproduction
>3. Seize the Means of Reproduction
| Invest in your third world ass country soy industry while the first world fights about soy.
| >>758574 >>758590
I know you guys are just shitposting, but there's much practical truth on these statements.
| >>758593
Okay, well, for real if I ever have kids I'll teach them this: The only real sin in life is weakness and stupidity. Society invented a lot of bullshit taboos and restrictions that were just made up by humans. Otherwise they are animals and thus have primal desires so they should follow their instincts and give in to them simply because it feels good. Just do what you want, but never be weak and never be stupid, because then you are just worthless.
| (8cf208)
So, yeah to sum it up: you can do absolutely anything you want in life as long as you're brilliant and on top. Psychopaths got it figured out keh
| 1. Seize the Means of Production
2. Seize the Means of Production
3. Seize the Means of Production
| >>758605
Well, I'm not sure you'd agree with it 100% though, I'm literally talking about a satanistic point of view. Even though I hate putting labels on stuff because of false credit-taking. I'm saying I'd tell them that if there's someone they don't like and they have power over them there's no reason to just exploit the shit out of them.
| And also knock out people that try to do the same to them. And generally be a cause and not a consequence. Nobody will open their mouth on you if you're strong, genius, rich, whatever.
Not everyone's cuppa tea.
| >>758614 >>758615
No, I agree. I consider that to be a realistic world view. Life really is a dog eat dog game with high stakes, society just lies to your face and tells you it's not. You're either stepping on someone or getting stepped on. Maybe if you have no ambition this doesn't bother you, but for anybody with some vinegar in their blood, you've got to have a set of fangs in your mouth.
| >>758598
I would teach em not believe people who talk about weakness and stupidity without explaining what it means to them.
It doesn't even matter if you imply universal weakness and stupidity or if you consider it to be relative: You have to offer a proper definition of them. Else it's nothing but just another bunch of arbitrary esoteric mumbo-jumbo.
| >>758614
Your reception of society is called "social darwinism". While those elements truly exists, there were and are other and better ways to live.
If think solving problems by redefining them as "god-given"/"natural" and become part of them, than you're not actually solving the problem. It's a pretty conformist attitude. It's also very comfortmistic, isn't it?
| >>758745
Buddo... I'm also talking about living a life of sin and pleasure... Literally if your thrill in life is killing then enjoy yerself and do it. That's supposed to be scandalous... Why you gotta agree...
| >>758754
This will be a very short life, cause you'll soon cross people who do the same and end yours for their joy.
| >>758603
"Fag" as an insult in 2021? I'm sorry but your ugly orange frog with blonde hair isn't in power anymore. Why aren't you at gulag already? Seems things didn't come as worse to your kind as you were afraid of.
| >>758758 also why would a trump supporter want to sieze the means of reproduction? At least think before you insult.
| You g/u/rls should be banned from having kids
| You g/u/rls should stop acting like kids and be grown adults and have makeup sex with eachother, angrily.
| >>758769
Because trump supporters are ugly fat old white man who are pissed that good looking and intelligent white women don't want to mate with them. They are dying out. Communists and non-whites have more children than them. The only trump supporters that have children are either christ-fundamentalist or capitalistic incest clans.
| ^and other degenerated incest trash.
| >>758569
Incels teaching their imaginary "future kids" how to become incels is the dumbest and funniest thing ever posted in this thread and on this site.
| >>758758
I doubt there's any Trump supporters here. Not everyone you don't like is a Trump supporter.
| >>759150
But who else here but trumps supporters insults others with "fag"? Maybe islamists or other similar retarded reactionists?
| >>758569 Being street wise is good but teaching people to see the world always in bad faith may contribute to worsening it and making another self centred and selfish "got mine, fuck you." generation.
| If I had kids? I'd leave them be, let them make up their own minds about life rather than force my views on them. I would just make sure they get a good education, learn critical thinking skills so they don't grow up to be civically ignorent sheep who post edgy arsebollocks on message boards.
I am glad the chances of people in this thread having kids is extremely low anyway.
| Not sure about the race war, or any of the other parts really. Sounds like OP has been hurt emotionally (though depending on where you are certainly don't always trust police)
I hope you can find some joy. Preferably not at end of a barrel or self harm.
Maybe the next sukeban game will do it.
| >>759244
Idk, I don't stereotype that autistically. I know gay people that use "fat" in lightly mocking terms. It's just a slang term with versatile usage.
>>759305
>Race war
How are you construing anything I said to be about a "race war"? Where is that coming from?
>Sounds like OP has been hurt emotionally
Of course, that's just real life. When things happen you stop being so idealistic and start to have a more realistic and objective view of things. It's a practical matter.
| >>be598a racial solidarity followed to it's end is race war material, that can't be escaped. Doesn't matter if it's positive or negative.
There are good and bad lessons to be learned from life, good ones are not so easy to accept. Especially if you've been fucked with.
I just think you're compromised due to some event and that's branded your mode of thinking. Isn't something that can be argued out of.
You'll have to come to terms with it when you're deeply unhappy in the future.
| >>759469
freedom followed to it's end is anarchism material, that can't be escaped. Doesn't matter if it's positive or negative.
government authority followed to it's end is totalitarianism material, that can't be escaped. Doesn't matter if it's positive or negative.
entrepreneurship followed to it's end is ancap material, that can't be escaped. Doesn't matter if it's positive or negative.
I agree with OP's 4.
| You'll have to come to terms with it when you're deeply unhappy in the future.
| >>759469
No, racial solidarity is not a guaranteed precursor to war. Just as anything could lead to war, they are not guaranteed. What leads to racial conflict is the inability for 2 sides to respect the boundaries of one another. As long as my people, and by extension, myself am not being aggressed upon, there is no reason to have conflict and this is not a rare mindset. You are liberally applying a Slippery Slope Fallacy.
| >>759508
You have a noble mindset gurl. So many people have sad brains that can't tell the difference between 1488 GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW and "To each race a separate place". To them you cannot separate the concept from hatred or aggression or a sense of superiority.
Imagine democratic ideas were banned because of the French revolutionary Terreur.
| >>759508
In todays globalized capitalist world all boundaries in the name of nations, races and religions are nothing but artificial, esoterical, ideological constructs. There are only two reasons why they are cultivated:
1. They offer fast-food alike replacement identities to the working class who suffers from the alienation of labour (caused by its division and automation).
2. They are a political instrument to the capitalist class in their successful "divide and conquer" policy.
| >>759508
So "racial solidarity" is an instrument of war, used by the leading capitalist class against the working class. A free, politically emancipated and self determined working class implies interracial class solidarity. Get rid of those outdated relics from the past. They are ideologies made for slaves who don't understand that they are slaves because they don't have any class consciousness in a de-facto class society.
| everybody itt talking about their future kids as if browsing danger/u/ for years on end hasn't already made them infertile smh
| >>759872
Communism is the ideal of a society without political-economiccal classes. This ideal is as debatable as the methods how to come closer to it. Those political-economical classes are a historical and contemporary fact as the contradictions and struggles between them.
Your "organic racial nation" is nothing but irrational, esoterical, religious, pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo. There is no "organic" boundary between conscious and intelligtent beings based on their genetics.
| >>759878 tbf trying to reach the ideal utopian society that has no evils is as lunatic and as troublesome as having pseudo scientific or religious basis for a society
I dont defend communism because marxism is just another doctrine people use to get to whatever goals they want independant of the reality we live in
| >>759848
Homosexual and disabled people may be both discriminated minorities, but this is the only thing they have in common. There are enough qualitative differences between them that justifies a different classification. However, ofc you are totally right if you criticized >>1ca704 for using "retarded" as ableistic insult. But probably that wasn't your point at all, wasn't it? Maybe you were just glad finding a flaw to de-legitimize criticism on fascist/nazist wording...
| >>759881
Communism is not equal to marxism. And "marxism" was originally not meant to be a doctrine by the name giving author. It was meant as a (still very much valid) scientific analysis of political economy in general and the capitalist system in particular. And it still can be understood this way, except you are a politically narrow-minded bonehead.
However, I would agree that marxism as a revolutionary method was (and still is) way more immature, vague and ploblematic.
| >>759887 if people use it as a doctrine, I will treat it as a doctrine, it has its good points but the way people try to use it is tottaly against its original intent
| >except you are a politically narrow-minded bonehead.
If you are someone who takes pride in being open minded to the point of judging others, you shouldnt talk to people this way specially on the first reply
| >>759889
I think being "open-minded" with no limits equals being hopelessly naive. And the only things I'm really "pride" about are those I created with my own hands. So I have no problems with my statement, neither in content nor in manner.
| >>759888
>if people use it as a doctrine, I will treat it as a doctrine
I don't use it as doctrine and I also belong to "people".
| Society is a racial construct.
| Your "society without political-economiccal classes" is nothing but irrational, esoterical, religious, pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo. There is no "socio-economic" boundary between conscious and intelligtent beings based on their societal standing.
| >>759911 just dont be rude with someone you have just met, its basic courtesy
>>759917 you are one out of many,
| That's just how you sound when you deny that race exists...
Once a gain you come in an unrelated thread and shit up everything. Why is it that commies can never shut the fuck up?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
| >>759920
Your approach to reverse post >>759878 is insincere and illogical for many reasons. For example you just you missed the notion that it was admitted that the goal of a classless society is debatable in the same post (maybe the reason you "missed" to refer to it in the technically proper way?)
Comparing an ideal (communism) with a faulty analysis of the state of things (racist, nationalist, religious ideology) is stupid.
| And denying socio-economic boundaries between conscious and intelligtent beings based on their societal standing is just pure ignornance towards histocial and scientifical facts and todays reality of a global, hegemonial capitalist world order dominate by multi-national companies owned by class aware capitalists from all over the world.
| >>759926
(Human) races don't exist. It's not a matter of believe it's a scientific fact. The "race" term was never applicable on humans in a useful way. It was invented to justify colonialism, oppression and exploitation of people by people against all previous humanistic and scientific achievements in the modern age. And it is only maintained for the purpose of divide and conquer.
| >>759928
Comparing an ideal (ethnonationalism) with a faulty analysis of the state of things (communist, socialist, political religion is stupid.
And denying racial and cultural boundaries between conscious and intelligent beings based on their societal standing is just pure ignorance towards historical and scientific facts.
So many typos and the last bit made no sense, terrible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
| >>759934
Of course it does. Religious wars also exist, even if there are no gods or other supernatural entities.
| If race doesn't exist then there is no way to be racist.
| >>759938
There is no difference.
This makes me think of gender versus sex. Sex is a biologically proven basis while gender is a term that was made up by Dr. John Money in the 50s.
Roundabout way to agree that trannies will never be valid.
| I, for one, do believe that the wumao exist...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
| >>759941
Communism is defined as a classless society. It would be a logical goal to have a classless society in order to get rid of class conflicts. And according to marx all conflicts are class conflicts (=historical materialism). I never said it is the only or even the best goal and unfortunately I also don't know what would be a good or even the best way to reach it.
| >>759946
Ethnonationalism is defined as a monoracial society. It would be a logical goal to have a monoracial society in order to get rid of racial conflicts.
And according to Hitler all conflicts are racial conflicts (=historical tribalism)
I'm not saying it's the holy grail of a path towards Utopia but I'm certainly saying that all peoples deserve their very own homeland, and that immigration is a slow genocide.
| >>759942
A country which is basically a big global operating company makes PR with influencers, just like other big global operating companies. So what?
Maybe you work for the CIA? Or for Standard Oil? Or for some neoliberl trans-atlantic networks, media tycoons, etc.
| >It would be a logical goal to have a classless society in order to get rid of class conflicts.
It might be logical to burry a problem but its not good in the long term, its like when 2 kids are fighting for a toy and the mom suddenly says none will have it.
| Maybe one day commies will grow up enough to realize we'd actually be alright in cutting them the Nazbol deal and letting them have the classless society in exchange to the society model to be monoracial. Until then they'll continue spewing pseudoeconomics, being divisive and haughty, and shitting up threads.
| >>759947 >It would be a logical goal to have a monoracial society in order to get rid of racial conflicts.
>It might be logical to burry a problem but its not good in the long term, its like when 2 kids are fighting for a toy and the mom suddenly says none will have it.
| >>759947
>It would be a logical goal to have a monoracial society in order to get rid of racial conflicts.
How about getting rid of made up falsities in the first place, instead forming societies to fit them?
I'm also curious about your definition of "race" and how you distinguish them.
| And if you want to look back at fascism, it's mostly saying that state-owned economies are good, but classless economies are problematic and unrealistic because each socio-economic class has their own role to play in society. Elites on top, Middles having adaptable roles, and lower classes being workforces.
| Your point is that the upper class will always abuse the lower classes, the point of fascism is that if those upper classes act like retards, we'll beat the notion of patriotism in them so that they don't abuse the fellow citizen.
| >>759884 I was saying how about we don't use either as an insult. Frankly it was 100% unrelated to politics and was just about not being an ass.
| >>759954
On the contrary, burrowing the problem is saying "diversity is our strength" and yelling at the normal rates of increasing racism in the populace... I'm trying to address the problem...
| >>fddfa6 >>cdedcb you 2 have your differences on what the problem is, class or race, but the 2 of you are just trying to burry the problem instead of solving it, spreading people by race to end race wars or removing class as concept to end class struggle is as near sighted as things can get when making solutions to societal problems
| >>759956 >>759957
If I remember fascism correctly it was more like the upper classes that were beating the notion of patriotism into the minds the lower classes. And after million of lives from the lower classes were wasted in pointless imperialistic warfare the upper classes were shaking hands and acted as if everything was fine.
| >>759958 no no, something that important should be notified even if its somewhat unrelated, prevents things from heating up
| >>759961
Well, mostly wrong. Study it again.
>>759963
Human races are more real than economical classes. If the economy collapses and disappears, human races will still exit... whether you like it or not...
| >>759959 the "diversity is our strength" people are promoting almost ecxatly what you are, "separate people by the privileged and u privileged races"(critical race theory), and thats is indeed trying to burry the problem like you yourself are
| >>759963 doesnt matter if its real or not if people still act on it, class struggle is flawed because it assumes every problem is cause by a class conflict independent of context, race theories are flawed because it assumes every problem is a race conflict independent oc context.
And the key factor is assuming society is flawed because of 1 arbitrary aspect independent of context
| >>759964
Sorry, I'm not going to study fascist propaganda...
And human races aren't real and they never were. The race term implies a cultivation of humans with different qualities on purpose by someone (or something). This never happened. Humans cultivated animals and created different races. But it would be unscientific to distinguish humans based on arbitrary phenotypical properties in order to fit your specific racist world view.
| >>759969 I mean if you want people to know more about marxism you should be open to studying other philosophies even if they conflict your own, it doesnt hurt to know more and we all know staying in a bubble can only lead to extremism
| >>759966
How exactly is the motto "diversity is our strength" applicable to me anethnonatialist in favour of a monoracial culture, and not to you, "race aint a thing chud"?
| >>759964
>If the economy collapses and disappears
A collapse doesn't imply the economy to disappear at all. The disappearance of economy would imply human societies being thrown back to gatherers and hunters.
>human races will still exit...
No they won't. Except some more advanced surviving people of your end-time scenario would start to cultivate the primitive gatherers and hunters according to their needs.
| >>759968
I'm not assuming that everything is a race conflict, but that race conflicts will always exist in a multiracial society and that it is a matter of racial justice to have ethnostate nations to invalidate that problem.
>>759969
Well, then I won't study commie propaganda. And we haven't progressed.
| >>759974 but it is still an interesting period of our history that should be known by everyone to avoid future conflicts
| >>759979 but it is still an interesting period of our history that should be known by everyone to avoid future conflicts
| Race is real.
| >>759971
So you say if I want people to know that the earth is round I should be open to flat earth theory?
Because saying the earth is round and not flat is just evil extremist marxist propaganda...
| >>759979
Marxism is definetly a philosophy. You can't deny this. You even labeled it so yourself before I proved you wrong.
Nice try though. Very smart.Not!
| >>759979
My relatives in bulgaria told me, after the cold war they realized that most stuff their "communists" said about communism was a lie. But unfortunately they had soon to realize that everything the communists said about capitalism was true.
| Saying races dont exist is not entirerly correct, its is still a point of debate in science since we have taken some small adaptations to certain eviorments, but then again, they are small adapatations, they dont go beyond skin color, eye lid proportions, nose shapes body hair and fat storage, in a globalized world with many tools that can cover for enviormental changes faster and more efficiently, those small difference become even less relevant
| >>759986 actually yes! You should know it, anyone can echo "earth is round" but not a lot of people can debate it or properly counter argue people who belive the earth is flat since they dont even know why someone would belive the earth is flat
| >>759987
Facism is definetly a philosophy. You can't deny this. You even labeled it so yourself before I proved you wrong.
Nice try though. Very smart.Not!
| >>759994
>but not a lot of people can debate it or properly counter argue people who belive the earth is flat
I would call this a major failure of public education system. I wouldn't wonder if this is the case in a development country or the USA... But yeah things also worsens in europe, since "we are living in america, america is wunderbar"
| >>759992
Economy is nothing but a social construct. It can easily be deconstructed.
Same with justice, equality, and reason, by the way.
| >>759999
I would certainly agree with that... The USA is a cancer, slowly subverting nations... Even though it has its good sides.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup#Defining_populations
RACE IS REAL.
| >>759995 you are aware of the multiple definitions and meanings of race and how they go beyond scientific terms and have many economical, societal, historical and ethnical factos that are recognized by both the public, the elites and the leaders of society?
The wikipedia article doesn really make a proper case by case breakdown to determine if is a concrete factor in human evolution or a relative term with meaning beyond convencional cience
| >>760001
Economy isn't just "one social construct". It's the most basic element of any civilization. Economy is a process that results in dividing people into economical classes originally based on their profession AND property. Peoples professions became (and still become) more and more insignificant with organizational and technological advance and the property factor increases.
Property on land led to feudalism and
property of (industrial) production means to capitalism.
| >>760010
Race isn't just "one social construct". It's the most basic element of any civilization. Race is a physical and psychological identity that results in dividing people into racial classes originally based on their genetics.
| >>760008
So your definition of race is just like a big ideologically arbitrary "make a wish" construction set for everyone. No wonder why racists can easily mobilize masses with their bullcrap. Everyone cries for their "race" but no one realizes that they mean different and even contradicting kind of bullshit.
| Pretty kiwi, take the Nazbol pill and help me destroy international imperialism...
| Ethnonats: I don't like genocide
Zoomercommies: No
| >>760012
>Race isn't just "one social construct". It's the most basic element of any civilization.
No it isn't. Racism is a new-age religion. Racism wasn't a thing most of the time in history of human civilizations.
| >>760011 if you are gonna call it baseless why bother to ask for a base?
As for the answer: race has more than on interpretation because it it implies different factors in different contexts, many countries criminalize discrimination by race, some legal documents have a distinction in ethnicity and race, some job applications have quotas based on the race of their employees as historical reparations for the treatment of certain groups in the past, etc. Race in society and science
| Race isn society, history and science are different things and thats my basis
| >>760017
S o u r c e s
>>760016
You have lost all the credibility I didn't even know you still had.
| >>760011
That person is floating in estorerical hitler racism, probably listening to wagner and mentally living in a fantasy universe with different stereotypical races that all serve a certain purpose according to their "god given" role.
| >>760019
>You have lost all the credibility I didn't even know you still had.
Why? Tell me any ancient source that explains or legitimates historical events or social circumstances with human races.
| >>760019 sources: information writen on passports from Brazil, USA, Germany and Canada, USA constitution, positivo educational book on the history section
| >>760020
That person is floating in estorerical marxist blindness, probably listening to red orchestra pieces and mentally living in a fantasy universe with different stereotypical classes that all serve a certain purpose according to their "engels given" role.
| >>afe9a1 >>31b8aa if you 2 are aware that both as being equally petty and refusing to listen then why not change the attitude?
| >>760022
I'll just let you dig your hole further in all by yourself. I am now absolutely certain that not a single soul is going to buy the BS you spew after having posted >>760016 and>>759992
| And >>760014 >>759953
I'll leave you this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
Read it again and again
| >>760028 its good to study somethig independent of if it is propaganda or philosophy specially since they have such a blury line anyways
| >>760030
I wanted to study communism and realized that marxist socialism at least is incredibly simplistic. "Own means of production and have no social classes." Maybe an ideology pandering to simpletons must have simple points that are easy to understand.
I'm willing to study more of it if there was anything of intellectual substance to it, send it my way I'll check it out.
| >>760031 eh, Im not the type who surfs around the internet with sources easely available to confront everyone I disagree with
| >>760031
You just understood the (vague) way and the (idealistic) goal. You missed the most important and relevant points: The analysis method and the analysis itself.
If you want to understand capitalism, you should read marx, even if for some reason you believe capitalism is awesome and disagree with the ideal of a classless society through basic democratic participation of workers in political economy.
| >>760039 true, seeing capitalism under his perspective was interesting, I dont agree with class struggle but I do understand his criticism towards capitalism and how it is not perfect
| >>760026
Who say's I'm not listening? I do listen, but this doesn't mean I have to accept or not to disagree with it, doesn't it?
| >>760041
Class struggle is no matter of agreement. It is real. Ask every active union member and every capitalist (even thought they rarely admit it in public).
| >>760024
Are you a parrot or a monkey? Your approach to put racism and marxism on one level is ridicolous. Race theory is scientifically falsified. Marx theories aren't. The failure of regimes that appealed to marx theories may helped to politically discredit his theories, but it didn't falsify them. Racism (and other ideologies under the umbrella of fascism) were and are falsified and wrong from the core, some even before they were assimilated by fascist movements.
| >>760044 class struggle is real but is not the source of all problems in society, marx would frequently lump all the problems in russia and other societies as a class struggle, thats the main criticism to his philosfy, reading marx is cool but some durkheim is usually pairs up really well since he breaks marxism down too and brings new factors to the table, he is also someon I dont intirely agree but positivism and marxism are really good at bringing out the best and worst in them
| >>760048
Thank you! This is how an acceptable and valid criticism on marx analysis looks like. Other than natbol-san with his fascist/racist theories.
| >>760039
>even if for some reason you believe capitalism is awesome and disagree with the ideal of a classless society through basic democratic participation of workers in political economy.
Careful when projecting, you've been inventing lots of stuff up till now.
| >>760055
I was waiting for you to send some acceptable and valid criticism my way, it just never showed up.
It's a very interesting technique to just selectively close your eyes on certain points.
You have not replied to >>760006.
| Your argument so far has been "you are an unscientific looneybin", anything you talk about does not exist.
That's all so far.
Maybe you don't believe the Uighur exist?
| This is why I say you are indoctrinated, at first you were all "race does not exist"... I pointed you to the science, and then you just went all quiet and shifted focus.
It's the big summary of people like you, they love to ignore, divide, sow discord and do character assassinations & slander.
| And through all the animosity and division, the only thing I can think of when commie VS nazi ringfights are on is this:
Our common enemy is winning...
| >>760061
My argument wasn't wrong, since race theory applied on humans is unscientific. And human races don't exist. They are a social construct. And if anything someone says is based on this theories about non existing races of course nothing of it exists.
The Uighur aren't a race. They are an ethnic minority in China. And while I'm sure the chinese government really doesn't treat them well, I'm pretty sceptical about the honesty behind the accusations from other countries.
| >>760074
There is nothing to support your argument. Communist science isn't science. In the end people prefer to believe a nice lie than a cold truth.
If you love china so much, you should just go there and shut up.
After all you'll do a lot of shutting up in a communist regime.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
| >>760063
>I pointed you to the science
Where?
And if you think I shifted the focus, what was holding you back to gain it back?
Do you even notice that this and the rest your other accusations in this post towards me are doing exactly what you accuse me for?
| >>760075
>If you love china so much, you should just go there and shut up.
I would say this would illustrate perfectly that you've run out of arguments - if you had some in the first place.
| >>760077
Stop being blind and read the thread.
>>760078
Funny, see >>760061
There was never any point in arguing against a commie. Your breed is always utterly convinced of the idea that you are right, that you're out to fix the world, and that anyone who disagrees is a retarded puppet.
| >>760077
>And if you think I shifted the focus, what was holding you back to gain it back?
You are telling me that I am at fault for not taking responsibility for you being a sneaky weasel...
>Do you even notice that this and the rest your other accusations in this post towards me are doing exactly what you accuse me for?
So... who started flapping their dumb mouth about communism?
| >>760075
>Communist science isn't science.
Other than race theory, religion and other esoterical fascist crap Marx, Engels and many other "communists" works are scientific works which still have much validity and relevance.
| >>760082
Race theory has never been disproven. You choose to ignore it because you decide that it conflicts with your cultist beliefs.
Esoteric fascism is a philosophy, just like Marx's crap and communism in general. You can't disprove them, and you also cannot disprove democracy. There is nothing scientific about Marx, otherwise.
| I'll cram it down your throat if I have to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
| >>760079
There was never any point in arguing against a commie with racist falsities, just as there was never any point in arguing against people who know the earth has a spherical shape if you persist on it being flat.
| >>760084
>Race theory has never been disproven.
It has.
>>there is a broad scientific agreement that essentialist and typological conceptions of race are untenable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)
>Scientific racism, sometimes termed biological racism, is the pseudoscientific belief that empirical evidence exists to support or justify racism (racial discrimination), racial inferiority, or racial superiority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism
| I'd like to add that something isn't "pseudo-scientific" because wikipedia says so. Really goes to show how shallow you are in your beliefs. My link is a collection of data while yours contains a single word that just magically makes you right.
Have you seen the reports of leftoïds infiltrating wikipedia memberships in order to modify sensitive pages to suit their interests? They did the same with the Great replacement page
| >>760090
In other words: A source is only valid to you if it validates your believes?
Yeah, I heard how evil marxist leftoids edited the "sensitive" page "flat earth theory" to portray it as pseudoscience, in order to indoctrinate people about their stupid Marxist believe the earth is spherical.
| >>760086 well Its like I said, they are all wrong in some way and just trying to burry the problem
| >>760091
>A source is only valid to you if it validates your 'believes'?
"Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty". There is no hope for you.
| It's ALWAYS the same thing with you. Nobody shits up any thread, nobody starts spewing shit about communism, and then you come along, you can't resist saying something that can only come out of the red factory of lies, and then you just shit up the entire thread, and you're proud of it.
Kind of like playing chess with a pidgeon.
| You can pull the brainiest of plays, do your hardest and put it in checkmate, but in the end it'll just shove the pieces off the table, shit on the board, and proudly march onto the next thing to ruin.
That's why you got banned a few years ago
| And it's why you should be kept banned tbh.
| >>760091 look not to be that guy but the shape of the planet has nothing to do with the topic and being on the left or the right doesnt make you more prone to become a flat earther even if some pseudo-scientific rage bait commisioned "study" might try to tell you otherwise
| >>760100
Are you pretending to be against it now? Commies do it all the time. It's a cultural classic.
I'm more against you shitting up this site tbh. I wouldn't ban you for expressing your opinion or because I'm allergic to red, instead it's because you're being a pidgeon cunt.
| >>760100 true it is, idk why they would be advocating for that, everyone should be aware of how bad cancel culture and censorship is
| There was a line drawn in the sand by the staff against you a few years ago, I'd like to appeal to jurisprudence in my case to keep you off this site.
>>760102
Yes, I agree.
| It's all just very tiresome and highly detrimental to the quality and fraternity of this site. It was never a high-brow political commentary site, this whole board was made to contain stuff like this. I'd like to add that the containment strategy does not appear to be working.
| >>760099
I'm pretty sure, that there is a huge correlation between flat-earthers and right-wing extremists. Racists are the flat earthers of anthropology.
| >>760108 well like I said>being on the left or the right doesnt make you more prone to become a flat earther even if some pseudo-scientific rage bait COMMISIONED "study" might try to tell you otherwise
| >>760109
No, there is much evidence for it. Just like all modern and popular conspiracy theories are clearly more associated to far-right world views. See "Qanon" for example.
| >>760111
There is much evidence for the contrary, also pointing to the fact that your stance is a common misconception.
| >When your body is your private property so you share your asshole with commissary Jamal in order to counterbalance your blatantly oppressive fascism
| >>760112
Have a look on this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories
You'll notice that most of them are more likely associated with politically far-right world views.
| >>760111 well critical race theory, cancel-culture and wokeism are clearly more associated with far-left views.
See twitter, facebook, hollywood and reset era.
Like people are being pushed to either agree with far right or far left all the time nowadays
And because Murica has a lot of influence their politics have been leaking out to many other countries and also increasing political tensions, I really dislike the current world of politics and what pushed me into moderate takes
| >>760113
I really don't know what you're trying to say here. Do I miss some "insider information"?
| For you it might seem like only the far right is a problem but as an outsider I can only say that USA is having a cultural and political colapse and that there is no good side to this war since both sides want some sort of new utopic order to fix things
| >>760114
And if you have a look at the US congress, media, and Hollywood, you'll notice that it's full of Jews.
But hey, that's a pure coincidence.
>>760117
Personally I really dislike the USA and americanism.
| >>760118
Idk, who's the commie here?
Be sure to give up your money and private property in your communist state. You don't deserve to own them.
| >>760120 eh it really is just a coincidence, most talking points in the media have nothing to do with jewish values
| >>760119
Yes... once they'll become Amerikaners, maybe they'll understand.
They seem to only be able to think in polar opposites.
Personally I'm someone who takes Free healthcare and education from the left and takes Cultural and racial independence from the right. All this is of course from a European perspective, and it's something the amerimutts cannot comprehend.
| >>760122
it wasn't my original point. And I'm not so sure. In the end I don't really care since it's not my country, thank fuck!
| >>5460a7
Ah, good to see where you come from finally. Antisemitism is the queen of conspiracy theories.
Yes, many influential people are ethnically of jewish origin. And this is no coincidence at all. But it's no jewish conspiracy neither. There are quite logical historical reasons for this circumstance, that have few to do jewish religion and absolutely nothing with biology.
| >>760125 uh saying that its NOT a coincidence that media is full jews implies that the jews are intentionaly trying to take over
| >>760125
>good to see where you come from finally
The post I was replying to was >>760114. Try to guess why I replied that way, and why your reply essentially constitutes an agreement from your end with >>760120
If you cannot, then I guess you're a dummy.
I also note that you are very eager to cram me into an ideological category. Must be because you wouldn't understand a different point of view?
>>760127
Oops!
| >>760121
A single "communist state" isn't possible. A communist society implies internationalism.
Also modern communism isn't about general private property in the first place. This would be primeval/stone age communism. Modern communism is about private property of production means (=capital). Please understand this difference.
| >>760130
>A single "communist state" isn't possible. A communist society implies internationalism.
Because the communist state would collapse
>Modern communism is about private property
Ah, so when you are asked to be a good communist and surrender your goods, suddenly you don't want to anymore!
Communism is >>759946, and I quote YOU: defined as a classless society
Meaning you have to pay for all the chumps who are broke because they're too lazy or stupid to get a job.
| >>760131
>Because the communist state would collapse
correct.
>Ah, so when you are asked to be a good communist and surrender your goods, suddenly you don't want to anymore!
Again you missed the difference I mentioned. Again: The "goods" I (and most people) own aren't production means (=no capital). Surrendering them would have nothing to do with communism.
>Meaning you have to pay for all the chumps who are broke because they're too lazy or stupid to get a job.
No it doesn't.
| Food for thought
https://www.youtube.com/embed/y9W83vWUjc0
>>760136
Then it's not communism. You got a rosy-tinted well-marketed version of socialism in your brain, and just added some bombastic reddish elements to it.
| >>760133
You are right. In this case coincidence also doesn't imply causality. But it is an evidence that go pretty well along with according historical, sociological and philosophical explanations.
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo_71ywCU5I
| >>760137
What Lenin and Stalin did hat few to do with communism. Lenin even knew and admitted this many times. What they did was the brutal societal and technical modernization of a backwarded empire - which in other countries was either done by revolutionaries of the new uprising bourgeois class (USA, France) or by reform-oriented feudalistic elites (Japan, Germany). Lenin even introduced free market in order to increase agricultural production.
| >>760142
While it is understandable how antisemite thoughts can become popular it is also understandable why they are wrong for scientific and historical reasons.
The association of conspiracy theories and the political right on the other hand is as well understandable as they are plausible if you look at history and political philosophy.
| >>760117
>Critical race theory cancel-culture and wokeism are clearly more associated with far-left views.
To me they seem more like reactionist submarines that clearly immobilize left movements. But even I have a very critical view on those conceps, they aren't really conspiracy theories.
>See twitter, facebook, hollywood and reset era.
Sure, the big monopolistic capitalist companies are suddenly allies with evil marxists because... CONSPIRACY
| >>760161
I'm not the one who sits in ideological mud and desperatly tries pull others into it by copy and paste their posts in a very stupid way.
| The copypasting was because I wanted you to be confronted with your own hypocrisy.
Your weak spot being your shitty logic.
If you're not the one copypasting, you for SURE are the commie cunt that started it all and are now getting tired when it blows back up in your face.
Your very first post in this thread was commie shit. You just couldn't resist.
And, well, look at what the thread turned into.
I reiterate... You belong in the ban list...
| Around 150 posts of commie thread derailment.
| >>760168
Yeah, just ignore that more than half of the posts were fascist/racist thread derailment.
| >>760169
Let's just ignore the fact that you started and that all those posts were only replying to you...
| >>760167
>Your very first post in this thread was commie shit
Which post? Why was it shit? Why ypu don't condemn the fascist and racist shit at all?
| AND THAT YOU KEEP GOING...
| >>760170
>were only replying to you...
If any comment that is seen as "communist shit" by certain people is flooded with their fascist bullcrap leads to banning this "communist shit", what does this mean to freedom of speech? Do fascist now decide what's allowed to say or not?
| BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP...
| >>760165 uh sorry but, you are, you just think otherwise because think you are better for not beliving in the nazi conspiracy theories but your attitude and actions in this thread have been on pair with those people online, Its I said waaaaay earlier, reading an article doesnt make you a better person
| Beside that being hypocritical doesn't prove someone wrong. It's a classical ad-hominem argument.
| >>760162 look, you cant simply try to say that the more extreme side of your ideology is not really part of it but them say that the facist, flat earthers and nazis are all part of the far right, if you are gonna call woke people as not real lefists than nazis arent real rightists either, this sort of attitute and double standart is done on both sides and it would be really cool if you realized that
| >>760181 actually, proving that there is a double standart massively reduces ones credibility since it shows how biased and derranged their arguements are
| >>760182
You're talking to a lost case. To these kinds of people, admitting they are wrong runs contrary to their core belief systems. When confronted, they will always deflect and resort to whataboutisms.
| >>760162 >Sure, the big monopolistic capitalist companies are suddenly allies with evil marxists because... CONSPIRACY
Look, its more complicated than that, they dont ally with the marxist, they ally with whoever has more control over the culture to keep control, hell there have been bans on marxists because they were sorta falling out of line, they are not friends with anyone, that all ties in the american cultural colapse
| >>760185
There is a difference between proving and accusing double standards. Your proof by repeating was entirely based on assumption. Beside that your "credibility" is just a nicer word for "authority". And having credibility/authority only makes people believe you not understand you.
| >>760190
>Your proof by repeating was entirely based on assumption
Remember that time where you completely invented the idea that I was also religious?
>Beside that your "credibility" is just a nicer word for "authority"
So here you are trying to dodge being called out as having no credibility.
Because you have no credibility.
Also, talking about credibility, remember >>760088?
Completely based on dubious scientific authorities... same strains that support tranny theories...
| >>760190 but the double standarts were proven,>>31b8aa >>cd54a1 >>7be78a >>3f1a80 have been going at it for a while and I pointed out a critical flaw and a double standart on all of you, you 4 are just full of unflexible bias and beliefs that will not really lead to anything productive.
Im suprised I spent more time pointing out what is wrong or equivocated than actually giving my own opinion
| https://leftypol.org/leftypol/
There you go!
Go there... stay there.
| >>760182
And yet there is a significant difference between the left and the right you don't want to see: the left violates their own standards with this attitude while the right is politically very successful this way. Stalinism was a failure by and violation of leftist ideals. Nazism was a success and the fulfillment of Naziist ideology. Hitler promised shit, people wanted that shit, and they drowned in that shit.
| >>760199 but thats not a relevant factor, the nazis failed too, stalin failed but so did mussolini, like you say the right is succesful in politics but look the election results, like you are trying to paint the nazis as an illuminati force has taken over, just like others paint marxists to be.
And because you admited to not want to research about the other side, you have 0 credibility when talking about them, you are biased and unflexible
| Cancel culture, "wokism", all those recent "new" popular left identity politics stuff are contradicting universalism, agreeing on rightist tropes in their own way and also oppose classical marxist view on society (class struggle). There are massive debates within the left caused by this. The popularity of the right has politically less problems with this kind of contradictions as it allows people to believe any bullshit as long it is against an ominous leftist(jewish) conspiracy.
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| 1. Don't trust anyone
2. People that are nice to you are fake
3. Do not cooperate with law enforcement unless a gun is pointed at you or could be pointed at you
4. It is better to have a sense of racial solidarity than not have one
5. The only person that can truly help you is yourself; the less you rely on people, the better
What's yours?