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Births in the US have dropped to their lowest rate in 30 years, marking a cultural shift as women delay motherhood, experts say.
Some 3.85 million babies were born in the US in 2017, the fewest since 1987, as births among women in their teens and 20s decreased.
Both the birth rate - the number of births per thousand - and fertility - a lifetime average forecast - fell.
Declining birth rates are common as countries become more developed.
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The US fertility rate is lower than the UK's but the US still has a higher fertility rate than many other countries.
While births decreased among younger women in the US last year, it rose in women aged between 40 and 44.
Donna Strobino of Johns Hopkins University put the change down to women choosing to delay motherhood in favour of work.
She told AFP news agency: "Women are becoming more educated, they are in the workforce, they are pursuing their careers.
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"And in the absence of policies that really help women who are working to really take some time off post-partum you are probably going to see a continuation of this delay."
The US is the only developed nation in the world that does not provide some type of national paid family leave plan to new parents.
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The rate has been dropped since the post-World War Two "baby boomer" generation was born, and suffered another dip in the recession that started in 2008.
It could mean there are fewer young people in the workforce in the future, at the same time as life spans increase and more elderly people need care and resources into later life.
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But it does not mean the population will shrink. It may grow at a slower rate, but there will continue to be more and more people in the US.
William Frey of the Brookings Institute called for some perspective on the figures.
"The country isn't going to run out of people," he said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44151642
Post number #288359, ID: 51f73c
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Thanos won't be snapping this fingers for the US hopefully
Post number #288371, ID: 3820e1
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>>51f73c m-mr president i don't feel so good
Post number #288533, ID: 0fc592
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>>288359 God what a dumb evil plan. Was he planning to do that every two years?
I'm guessing you guys aren't fucking because you can't afford healthcare or a house right?
Post number #288566, ID: 3229c6
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Honestly speaking who the fuck wants to bring a kid into this fucked up world? Ive beem married 5 years but were only having kids if things get better
Post number #288673, ID: 6330a9
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>>288533 Anyone with a decent job can afford healthcare. The lack of universal healthcare only hurts the poor. Putting public money into keeping the poor alive is dysgenic. Public healthcare in Canada is a total shitfest t. Canadian
Post number #288676, ID: ff883b
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It's a good thing, more countries should reduce their birth rate. The world cannot sustain our current population for long.
Post number #288756, ID: 20db4c
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Good good good. We need less people breeding in this country. Too goddamn many rednecks already.
Speaking as a white boi from Kentucky, the last thing this country needs is more of us.
Post number #288959, ID: 6800d7
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That's actually a good thing, as people in the USA unite the worse from all ethnicities. They are the trash of mankind no one wanted to have in Europe or Asia. The exception are native americans to whom the country belongs and black people who where brought there by force.
Post number #288972, ID: 3229c6
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>>288959 >Trash from Europe Thats a new one
Post number #288988, ID: 6e2928
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>>288959 >implying Europe isn't already trash
Post number #289103, ID: 293eb2
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>>288988 tbf i'd rather live in europe than over here
Post number #289239, ID: 20db4c
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This is a shithole country populated by human trash who willingly elected a parasitic senile racist fuck who exists as living proof as to why wealthy white people should not be allowed to breed.
We got the leadership we deserve
Post number #289285, ID: 8b1b66
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>>289239 I always thought Trump's followers were racist not him. Although I guess if your speeches are attracting racists in the first place...
Post number #289293, ID: f3761e
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>>289285 You have to have a low iq in order to support trump, We literally have a president that focuses on giving jobs to china and has obnoxious rants on twitter about how his nuclear button is bigger. Him building a wall isn’t gonna stop anything, he’ll just waste tax money and immigration will still occur. He elected ajit pai and almost won the vote for removing net neutrality
Post number #289317, ID: 7a8df0
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US birthrates have *always* been negative. It needs the immigrant influx to survive and supply it with the necessary people who can think and are educated. It is not a coincidence that the current crisis of educated people missing everywhere, started since more and more students from Asia decide to go back home after the studies.
Post number #289359, ID: 20db4c
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>>f3761e there's a lot of well educated people who voted for Orange Julius. In my own life I know people with advanced degrees from liberal colleges who voted for that clown because they're racist as fuck and The Great Oompa Loompa uses rhetoric that acts like a dog whistle to them. You don't have to be stupid to support him, being a shitbag human is apparently cause enough.
Post number #289441, ID: a83f4b
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>>289359 You guys are hilarious
Post number #290023, ID: 0c8402
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>>a83f4b UR face is hilarious
Post number #290197, ID: 7a8df0
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>>289441 Oh, so you fit the above description?
Post number #290570, ID: c2aea4
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I dont care about birth rates. As long as I dont have to experience World War 3 within my lifetime Im good
Post number #290595, ID: 08430d
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>>c2aea4 the odds of that decrease daily as long as fuckwit trump stays in office
Post number #290657, ID: 7b7e6e
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>>290595 Lmao Drumf!
Post number #290748, ID: b091b8
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>>290595 Hell get impeached eventually. I hope
Post number #290857, ID: 6e2928
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>>290748 But then his vp who is possibly worse than him gets presidency. Not to mention the damage he's done, and the damage his campaign has done to the country cannot be undone.
Post number #291097, ID: ac062b
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>>290748 If he gets impeached there will be civil war and your soyboy ass won't survive it
Post number #291148, ID: b091b8
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>>291097 Civil War over what?
Post number #291151, ID: 08430d
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>>b091b8 over the South's inability to accept that they LOST the 1st civil war and that racism is WRONG.
150 years later and the South hasn't "risen again" and never will. Trump supporters are on the wrong side of history and are so goddamn afraid of black people and losing their white privilege that they're blind to the Republican party raping them and forcing the country into corporate fascism.
Post number #291159, ID: ac062b
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>>291148 Over half the country picking trump and the other half having such a media-fueled temper tantrum that they would try to impeach? Democracy doesn't always mean you get to choose, go live in a socialist dictatorship if that is what you want.
Post number #291163, ID: b091b8
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>>291151>>291159 Both beautiful answers but these arent reasons to have a civil war in this day and age.
Post number #291181, ID: 20db4c
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>>b091b8 oh, definitely not a good reason. There's *almost* no good reason for a civil war 2, unless it's the 99% declaring open season on the 1%. Seize the means of production, comrade.
Not all, but a shit ton of our problems in this country are because of inequality both judicially & financially.
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>>291181 Keep in mind that the 99% going in on the 1% wouldn't be war. Itd be genocide. Not that Im against open season. *wink* Comrade
Post number #291191, ID: 20db4c
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☭☭☭
Post number #291193, ID: 6e2928
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>>291097 oh yeahhh cause you paranoid gun nuts are *totally* not gonna kill eachother.
Post number #291258, ID: ac062b
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>>291193 Maybe after we run out of soft targets. Given the choice between killing a gun nut or a soyboy with no guns (guns are scary and kill people!) I know who I'd be robbing first.
Post number #291292, ID: b091b8
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We have nazis who want to kill jews although they cant differentiate a jew from a white person. But lets believe you can tell the difference between a soyboy and a "Chad" who uses this app
Post number #291462, ID: f0779d
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I'm just dying at the idea that gun nuts are such hardcore Trump cocksuckers that if they couldn't have their orange daddy in office they'd throw a huge fit and shoot up every public space. How fucking insecure can you be to think that's reasonable, >>291097?
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>>291462 these are the same people who want guns to "protect" themselves from a "tyrannical government" yet happily lick the jackboots of every soldier and cop they see.
Post number #291566, ID: ff883b
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>>291467>>291462 I cannot handle the emotional strain of reading that much truth in the span of 2 posts. also orange daddy is my new name for the president from now on
Post number #291731, ID: ebce31
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>>291462>>291467 couldn't have said it better tbh.
Post number #291748, ID: d4f97c
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>>291462 This post is the equivalent of "no u"
>N-no it is the right wingers who are gonna throw the tantrum! Stop calling us childish!
Post number #291778, ID: b328b9
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>>291748 isn't the left chimping out since Trump won?
Post number #291859, ID: b091b8
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Sjwa dont represent the left. Thats like walking to a neo nazi rally and wondering why the right is wearing that uniform.
Post number #291860, ID: b091b8
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Sjws*
Post number #291918, ID: f38508
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>>291778 Yes, but they will try their hardest to claim The Right are the ones having daily panic attacks and that The Left is calm and cool. Projection is funny.
Post number #291942, ID: 598b19
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i'm not sure why it's a one-or-the-other type thing i think both sides of the aisle are pretty distressed at eachother
Post number #291943, ID: b091b8
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>>291918 Again, lots of generalizations are being made. Based on this logic, The Right is entirely composed of Neo Nazis and if thats the case, the "left" should be chimping since their basic existence is being threatened.
Post number #292212, ID: 313288
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>>291943 Most people on the left and right are not extremist, even today. The left as a whole is whining waaaay more than the right did when Obama won, and that was even with the race angle. Left can be concluded to be much more childish and opposed to democracy. Like come on, it has been over a year and I am still hearing "drumf" and "stupid orange retard" on a daily basis. Like get over it, holy shit.
Post number #292219, ID: ff883b
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>>292212 probably because no one on the right got personally hurt by obama care, while certain trump policies (lookin at the 'religious freedom'=doctors can tell trans people in need of care to fuck off policy) are actually killing people on the left.
Post number #292243, ID: b091b8
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>>292219 >People on the left should be chimping out because they are being threatened.
Post number #292246, ID: c5eb96
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>>292219 I've heard the same shit from the right. It seems more like people from both sides are generally displeased with the world.
Post number #292284, ID: f38508
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>>292219 Sorry, are you claiming doctors should not have a say in who they choose to treat? If a doctor refused treatment to Hitler on grounds of being a Jew, would anyone complain? Why do you always bring in these full-retard topics whenever we are on track to have a decent discussion?
Post number #292293, ID: b091b8
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>>292284 Hitler=Wants genocide Trans=....is trans I can totally see why a doctor would say no to both these things. Equally disgusting
Post number #292339, ID: 6e2928
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>>292284 It kinda, you know, goes against the hippocratic oath? That's generally not a good thing.
Post number #292340, ID: f38508
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>>292293 Oh so it is based on your completely arbitrary "evil-o-meter" in which your personal feelings are now law and those of the person you are commanding are not important. Does "equality before the law" ring any bells?
Post number #292343, ID: f38508
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>>292339 No, no it doesn't. You don't seem to understand that oath at all. Bonus: the oath is against abortion.
Post number #292349, ID: b091b8
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>>292340 Its funny cause Hitler was gonna do the same thing to the people he deemed subhuman but youre defending it.
Post number #292358, ID: f38508
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Hitler's Germany was not a democratic state. Now you are equating a dictatorship with a democratic republic, for whatever strange reason that makes sense only to you.
Post number #292363, ID: b091b8
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>>292358 I agree. Hitler's germany wasnt a democratic state. Yet you have no problem with a doctor saying btfo to a random trans person as oppossd to a tyrant known world over. You brought up the comparison to Hitler in the first place making youre argument. Next youll say "Im not a nazi but even they deserve freedom of speech. Muh democracy." Go back to \pol\
Post number #292378, ID: 20db4c
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Goodwin's Law is still in effect. I was getting worried there for a moment
Post number #292433, ID: d4f97c
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>>292363 Your argument still makes no sense. Go back to Facebook brainlet.
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>>292433 Alright. See you later, Davis Aurini.
Post number #292477, ID: 6e2928
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>>292343 Yes it does.
"Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God."
"I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm."
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Post number #292606, ID: d4f97c
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>>292477 Is English your second language? Neither of those imply what you suggest. Keep trying though.
Post number #294035, ID: a2e3c7
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>>292606 dude give up lmao. you lost when you equated trans people to fuckin hitler
Post number #294257, ID: b091b8
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>>294035 Just leave him alone. This is the one guy who'd defend Hitler cause he likes dogs.
Post number #294300, ID: d4f97c
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>>294035 Lmfao keep trying kid xD
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>>294300 This guy
Post number #294405, ID: 0ea5c9
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Hitler was an esoteric, lunatic asshole sourrounded by simple-minded assholes that were impressed by nationalist, racist, antisemite, pseudo-historic, romantic mumbo-jumbo-rhetoric with mendacious lies about honor and duty. This is what characterizes political right wingers in general: Some trashtalk-talents followed by dumbasses.
Post number #295156, ID: f38508
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>>294405 Don't forget trans-phobic, misogynist and ableist as well you bigot! How dare you leave those out as though they don't matter.
Post number #295542, ID: ccc3af
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DROP MORE
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I am still waiting for a 4th Reich.
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>>295156 but all of those are still shitty things to be so...you're proving their point?
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| Births in the US have dropped to their lowest rate in 30 years, marking a cultural shift as women delay motherhood, experts say.
Some 3.85 million babies were born in the US in 2017, the fewest since 1987, as births among women in their teens and 20s decreased.
Both the birth rate - the number of births per thousand - and fertility - a lifetime average forecast - fell.
Declining birth rates are common as countries become more developed.