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another school shooting in US huh

| should we be surprised at this point?

it was in Texas btw


| In america I would have been a school shooter

In Europe I got free healthcare, free therapy and now I'm almost finished with free university


| i'm just tired of it. not surprised considering all we do in politics is scream at each other rather than work on the damn problem


| not really news. hasn't been for years, even before the media started reporting them more often.


| Another fucked up dude who went nuts and killed a bunch of innocent people. Im not even shocked anymore


| This shouldn't be a thing. This doesn't happen in other countries for a reason. restrict who can buy guns and have good mental health services. It isn't do hard


| >>287287

This is a myth. Mass killings are commonplace in every country, whether civilized or not.

Whether you're aware of it or not is a measure of how much your media reports it.


| Also

>It isn't do hard

lolololololololol

Run for government then.


| >>287376 you must be a troll right? like really? are you fuckin insane? Guns should be banned and lunatics locked up. Let's follow civilized countries like UK, France and Japan


| Texas is murder hell.


| >>287400 guns aren't the problem. look at switzerland; lax gun laws and one of the safest places to live. it's the shitty gun culture, poor regulations and lack of proper instruction for owners that's fucking america up so bad


| i'm not pro-gun by any standards, but i think america has a bigger problem than just the guns


| >>287480
+no free healthcare or therapy for people who suffer
+a school shooter culture
+bad background checks
+etc.


| >>287265
>>287277
>>287253

This speaks for most Americans I think. We're just used to it. Fifty years ago we never even considered that such a thing might happen, but then we had some boys set a poor example, & it entered the public consciousness via Columbine & successive incidents, & now we're stuck in a feedback loop. There are so many shootings in the US because many of us think nothing of them anymore.

>>My 2¢


| >>287486 i think american media is to blame too. professionals have literally warned channels not to publish the names, social media, pictures etc of shooters and they go and do it. all for the views/profit. it's absolutely fucking disgusting.

if suicides aren't reported so as not to inspire copycats, why do news channels report on every aspect of the shooter's life?


| >>287535 cause it sells, news would report suicides if it happens to someone worth noting, like with robin William case.
But school shooting are homicides and possibly a suicide, making it noteworthy based of the death tolls.
Ideally the news woudnt leave the state since it affect them but school shooting go international because it keeps people seeing the channel and reading the news site.


| Can i ask a question to all Americans here....why they even keep doing those shootouts they gain nothing.If they wanted to hurt someone they could hack bank's servers crushing economy or creatimg a virus or a parasite and spreading it i just dont get it...


| >>287807

lots of reasons.

The most common reason is attention. After that, the reasons could be anything from:

1) Lashing out against a system that failed them in some manner, e.g failing a business venture, emotional/mental health problems left unchecked, loss of faith in government or institutions...

2) Copycatting, to acquire aforementioned attention that the media so graciously displayed on someone else,

3) Radicalization, whether by religion or political institution.


| As examples, search up:

The "Killdozer,"

V-Tech Massacre,

Christopher Dorner,

which are examples of a man who felt shafted by his local government, causing him to lose significant amounts of money, a college student who felt like the entire world was against him and was full of hate for himself and others, and a former well decorated Navy Vet who tried to start a one man war against the Federal Government.


| We can also look at Elliot Rodger, who is an example of not just the ultimate failings of the US's mental healthcare system, but also an example of excessive overindulgence, narcissism, and undiagnosed sociopathy/antisocial disorder culminating into the perfect storm of literally the worst parts of Incel/Lolcow/r9k culture.

Literally. The guy was not only evil, he was like the worst bits of online personified, combined with obscene wealth and a contempt for humanity


| That is so extreme, reading his manifesto is like reading ColdSteel the Hedgehedge fanfiction.

You can actually find the manifesto on the internet somewhere, along with Christopher Dorner's manifesto, and probably some of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho 's angry vlogs.

Study these and get something of an insight into why they do what they did.


| And then you have people like this faggot: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/19/us/florida-school-shooting-cruz-psychiatric-records/index.html

Who, quite literally, shot up a school because they wanted attention.

Hell, a bunch of their psych meds are even for ADHD, and he has been described by peers as:


| >"At school he "threatens to hurt others," is "angry" and has been suspended several times for unruly/disruptive behaviors including insults and profanity. He is attention seeking and annoys others, the document adds."


| A pity that this shitlord wasn't suicidal on top of all this.

In fact, that's actually worse when you think about it.

At least people who are suicidal tend to be lashing out more as a symptom of trying to hurt everyone who they think hurt them.

This kid?

He just wanted to see the world burn.

Apparently he had a fetish for knives, too, which makes one wonder what he would have tried even without guns:


| >At home, he cuts out furniture and blankets, keeps "knives and scissors" in his bed, and he seems sad when his brother bullies him, according to the document.

inb4 "but he was bullied tho"

well whoopdeefuckingdoo so has the majority of the g/u/rls who use dangeru.us. Hardly a reason to cut up furniture and/or shoot up schools for attention.


| Now, as for the above comment regarding mass killings being commonplace in other "civilized" countries...

Well...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/22/barack-obama/barack-obama-correct-mass-killings-dont-happen-oth/


| >On July 22, 2011, a total of 80 people were killed in Norway when Anders Behring Breivik, a political extremist, bombed a government building in Oslo and then went on a shooting rampage on the island of Utoya, just outside the city.

>


| >On March 11, 2009, in Winnenden, Germany, a teenage gunman killed 15 people. The majority of the victims were children and teachers killed when the shooter opened fire in three classrooms in a local secondary school. The gunman shot two other people before killing himself after being cornered by the local police.


| >On Sept. 23, 2008, in Kuahajoki, Finland, a gunman shot 10 people to death after opening fire on a classroom in the Kuahajoki School of Hospitality. After killing the students, the shooter burned the victims’ bodies.

>in fucking Finland, of all places.


| >Elsass warned PolitiFact of a few caveats about the data. While they believe their database "to be among the most exhaustive compilations available," Elsass noted that it may not include every instance of mass shootings. It also doesn’t include every example of mass killings


| >-- just those committed by firearms, even though mass stabbings are not uncommon in such places as China. Finally, their database doesn’t include acts generally considered to be terrorism, such as the attack in Paris on the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.


| >"If these were included, we are likely to see something much different statistically as there have been a number of very high-profile terrorist attacks in Europe, some including the use of firearms, that are excluded from the current analysis," she said. But in all likelihood, this would only make the case against Obama’s claim stronger.


| Now, how many of these have you actually heard of? This g/u/rl admits they hadn't heard of even half of the events used as examples. And why would I?



| So as you could see, g/u/rl... it really is a manner of how often your media reports mass killings, and their location, and when, and where, etc. America probably has a higher frequency of said killings (debatable), but to argue that it is a problem indemic to America is, to use a meme,



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| >>287400

btw I wouldn't list the UK alongside Japan and France.

France doesn't shit a brick if you buy a blunt butter knife and Japan doesn't have its panties in a twist over cartoon porn.

The UK is a joke.


| Good to say "terrorism" i didnt see any school shootout in your report i live in Europe i know the things that happening there.I asked before the reason why they do it from some American cuz to put it simple they live among them.I was hoping to get an irrelevant or relevant psychological background of those commiting this crimes so i could see the thing i may could not see.


| >>287864

dude two of the examples cited by politifact were literally school shootings.


| compared to US school shootings in European countries are very rare


| >>287866
Sorry i didnt read it right but my response stay the same.


| >>287535 Aside from the obvious media will do it for the profit, you think in this day and age people won't find it out by themselves? Let alone 4chan, even reddit are notorious for playing detective. Imagine if you just release some of the info and reddit/4chan use it as their clue to the witch hunt game, and then ruining some innocent guy's life.


| >>287964 4chan will be 4chan, and the vast majority of people don't give a shit about 4chan. it's different when multimillionaire, nation-wide news companies read a shooter's facebook posts on live television.


| Give up your guns, goyim! Think of the children! How dare you uphold your constitutional right!


| it's because of the anarcho-tyranny currently being forced upon us


| >>288005 did you miss the part when I say reddit? Reddit is mainstream at this point, and some news site get their sources/rumors from there. Normies and grandmas will see the repost from the reddit on their facebook feed eventually. It is inevitable.


| I'm just confused. I'm not from america and I never visited. And this is like, the 43rd shooting in 2018? Like, I won't feel safe going to school. a shooting never happened in a school for like, what, almost 10 years? whats the root problem here? Bad mental health care? Poor gun laws? hyper confused here.


| I love guns


| >>289029 then put one into your mouth and pull the trigger


| >>288183
The school shootings are staged to gather support for banning guns. We are only as free as we are able to be under our own power. Left needs to stop their mass hallucination thinking slavery to the government is a good thing.


| >>289479
>Left needs to stop their mass hallucination thinking slavery to the government is a good thing.
Right needs to stop their mass hallucination thinking slavery to the rich is a good thing, the market is "free" and an estate with power distribution between its core institutions which are controlled by people
is a bad thing.


| It's fucking time to repeal the second amendment, we're not grown up enough for these kinds of toys. We've had over 200 years to prove ourselves and all we keep doing is killing children, unarmed black men, trample what's left of the native Americans and go "liberate" countries with brown skinned people and oil.


| On his t-shirt stood *born to kill* lmfao white people.


| >>289479 school shootings are staged? And having more guns is supposed to prevent this somehow. OK. Good plan. And then when you plan to overthrow the government or whatever with your fuckin' homebrew AR15 the cops will just drone you to shit because guns and peasants are no substitute for air support and heavy artillery.
A better plan might be information warfare or hacking - turn the government's weapons against them. But the govt is big enough you won't overthrow w/ just guns.


| >>288183 I'm gonna say guns aren't the problem but celebrity culture, sociopathy and a disregard for human life keeps causing this. It's easy to get your 15 minutes of fame when all you need to do is shank some guy because you don't like his face. And no, violent crime isn't just guns in the states.


| >>555d4c bulllllllllshit


| America is like it is because of its mass psychosis about so many things regarding how society functions and what are the important things in life. When all you care about as a nation is only money and attention and when the superhero complex is seeded since childhood into everyone, there is no wonder why such population produces so many schizophrenics and a mentality of "take the matter in my own hands with a vengeance".


| >>289490
Retards like you, not brown or black people, are why I will never give up my firearms.
>>289801
Insurgents in the middle east sure did a good job without all the fancy tech. You are still thinking in the past.
>>289488
Natural hierarchies will never disappear, no matter what kind of brainlet system you try to force on people.


| >>289998
>insurgents in the middle east did a good job
doing good except for the fact that air/drone strikes are killing more militants than ever (+ innocent civilians) to the point where soldiers on foot are no longer needed in some areas

and if you own more than one firearm, they're nothing more but toys to show off, sorry to break it to you. speaking as a gun owner, one gun is all you need if you're so worried about defending yourself or w/e.


| >speaking as a gun owner
I doubt it. What is "arming your neighbours"? Your family? Are a shotgun and a rifle used for the same purposes? You are probably a liberal who thinks barrel shrouds are scary and should be banned.


| >>290013 goddamn that strawman. i thought you replied to the wrong post # at first. where the hell did you pull that argument from? what makes you think i'm not a gun owner because i don't amass an entire collection?

and no, i don't think guns or mods should be banned because they're not the problem here. piss-poor health care and stigmatizing of mental illness are just a few of the problems. i could list more but it's like 11pm here and i gotta go to work early so, peace


| guns should be entirely banned except for hunting ones like in most civilized countries.


| Here in the Netherlands its normal to hide the names/faces of criminals in the news no matter how horrible the crime.


| >>287875
To put into perspective how much people here in the US have come to expect a school shooting to happen.

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/997511596355141634

>“No. It’s been happening everywhere. I’ve always felt it would eventually happen here, too.”


| >20th school shooting this year
>the year isnt even half way done yet
Oh boy I cant wait until next year. I bet it'll double by the time we hit the end of May in 2019.


| "The U.S. represents less than 5% of the 7.3 billion global population but accounted for 31% of global mass shooters during the period from 1966 to 2012, more than any other country, Mr. Lankford said, adding that he defines a mass shooter as one who killed at least four victims. The 90 killers who carried out mass shootings in the U.S. amounted to five times as many as the next highest country, the Philippines, according to his research."


| Its ok the world is overpopulated anyway


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| >>290443 shooting some kids up isn't going to solve overpopulation you moron


| >>290559
Solve? No but every little bit helps. And with all the shootings going on all over the world guns are ok in my book


| >>290025
>if you own more than one firearm, they're nothing more but toys to show off

Gun owners don't say shit like this, this is the kind of slop that comes from the mouth of a person who thinks suppressors are only for hitmen.


| >>290564 killing people isn't useful at all, people die of old age anyways. The only way to solve overpopulation is producing fewer babies.


| http://indianexpress.com/article/world/pakistani-girl-who-died-in-texas-shooting-wanted-to-experience-american-culture-5185008/


| >>290443 thanos leave


| >>290757 Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
My mind is like
Fwooooooosh

How sad.


| >>290025
Do your fucking research. Plot twist, with very few exceptions the mentally ill are LESS LIKELY to commit violent crime than the mentally sound.

About ~18% of the US population is considered to be mentally ill, yet they account 3-5% of violent crime.

http://jech.bmj.com/content/70/3/223
http://www.amhca.org/blogs/joel-miller/2017/10/03/gun-violence-and-mental-illnessmyths-and-evidence-based-facts
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/mental-illness.shtml#part_154788


| There are a few specific conditions which are exceptions, but even relatively severe conditions like schizophrenia mark a person less likely to perpetrate violent crime.

The mentally ill are, however, 10x more likely to be VICTIMS of violent crime.


| People where I live at have luck. If it was here in Europe so easy as in the US to get a gun, I already would have shot down some persons. Good that a reasonable law protects me and other people from this drama.


| "There's nothing we can do to prevent anything from happening."


| What happen in us will stay in us..


| It does not say much if a sick society brands some people as mentally ill. The real mentally ill people sit in their bureaus, playing gods, judging about peoples destinys, even about live and death just for the sake of staying in this bureau and continue playing god.
If they let keep people their weapons, then because they are not afraid since people kill each other, if they take it away if they are afraid. Just shoot down some of the (NRA-near) elites and they'll change mind.


| >>291725 you know what, at this point i wouldn't be surprised if it took someone shooting up a bunch of politicians for them to actually do something


| >>291729
It isn't the politicians numbnuts. They all want gun control (except the very few patriots, but they are the exception) and have been trying to pass increasingly restrictive laws for decades now. The problem is their constituents will vote them out or downright revolt if they try to do it too quickly. So we have "ban assault weapons" in Colorado and "no more bump stocks" as they continually take away pieces of your constitutional right.


| >>291754
Well once it was also ur constitutional right to hold slaves. Maybe your constitution needs and update again to finally turn your wild-west cowboy country into a civilized one. In an democratic estate of law people make decisions by peaceful political engagement, by words and at least by election, not by primitive violence.
The only threat to this system is plutocracy, but the gun idiots shot rather ordinary people than actually revolt against the rich.


| >>293238
In Europe there is a thing called "power monopoly of estate" (I don't know if this concept even is known in the US) It is a pretty good thing I won't miss. Having an easy access to guns for any idiot around me would be a thing that scares the shit out of me.


| >>293238
Europeans are undergoing a rather nasty soft-genocide against them right now and really have nothing to be proud of besides how politely they behaved during their replacement.

The right to possess firearms is necessary as a deterrent against corruption and overreach of government. When words fail, bullets make a good backup.


| >>293270 I am European, what genocide? Are you one of these racist nuts that believe "white genocide" or something? lol


| Guns are dangerous, most if the world already realised and implemented laws to regulate them. Time for US to catch up with the rest of the world.


| >>293397
>I am European
That explains pretty much all we needed to know. Hope Mohammad's cock has been washed today for your sake.


| >>293476 lol this has to be troll right?


| God i wish we died back in 2012


| >>293476 >actual European discredits rumors about Europe
>Changes the subject to Islam to avoid being exposed.
O ok.

I'm ready 4 summa that good arabic pedodicc tonight baby


| >>293645
London had a higher murder rate than new york earlier this year despite not allowing guns (or butter knives). Continue living in your reality distortion bubble though, genocide can't happen to white people right?


| >>293828
If you have a problem with white genocide, tell it to the whites who let it happen. You think the guys who raped Germany let themselves in?


| >>293828
How dare you. Butter knives are 100% legal. Plastic ones at least.


| >>293828
>reality distortion bubble
>thinks white genocide is happening on a global scale


| >>293246 >>293398
The reason firearms are legal to own in the US is precisely because of power monopoly & because of the dangers they pose. The original idea was that people would always have the power to rise up against tyrannical government. The American Civil War, at least at first, was largely the sort of thing the framers of the Constitution were gunning to make possible.


| The fact that arms have evolved so far since then has of course made it contentious whether such a status quo is still possible or desirable.

But the principle is hard to kill off. If we look at arms from the Civil War era, for example. they aren't even legally classified as firearms, & generally anyone who isn't in prison, on prohibition or on parole can buy or own any number with no legal trouble, even convicted murderers.


| >>293270
>Soft Genocide
White privilege so powerful, yall get the soft version of genocide.


| >>293270
Tbh, I give a fuck about your "soft genocide". I mean even as a racist you should be happy if the white race is "replaced" softly over time as "the others" have to deal with a fucked up planet then.
I mean for example the Netherlands probably won't exist anymore physically, as it will be flooded by the ocean. So if then there are just "niggers" than it is their problem. So be happy and leave people be people. Everything is gonna be allright.
Asshole!


| >>294388
But muh western society!
Oh wait, American black, latinos and asians are born into American society and thus basically programmed with Whiteys belief system. As long as they uphold it we wont have to worry about America becoming a third world shithole. Maybe lets put our energy into at least?


| >>294588
I don't think whiteys belief systems are, exept for their dominance, not much diffrent from non-white belief system. People, no matter what "race" (which scientifically doesn't make any sense at all) should rather focus on having an knowledge system as primary source for information. Belief systems are just there for things where no one really knows what's going on like "is there an afterlife/soul/god/etc?"


| >>294634 That's far too oversimplifying and generalizing societies. There's a good reason why global theories are critiqued heavily. Cultures and ethnicities have specific historical contexts. Perhaps if you live in a Western nation or a post colonial nation your presumptions are that it's not the case but your general theory fails and will continue to fail exactly because you assume it's applicable in all realities and contexts.


| >>294665
I think it's more cultural relativism which oversimplifyies things and beeing critiqued heavily. Culture and Ethnicity are way to often used as lame excuse for stupidity or to hide selfish (plus pretty materialistic) intentions. In Europe there was (is?) a debate about if/where/when women are allowed to wear a headscarf, while e.g. in Bavaria, germany the government commands to have a crucifix in public bureaus. I mean are this really peoples current issues? Dumb as fuck.


| >>294786
Isn't it more important to close the gap between poor and rich, stop arms race and pollution of the environment? If these problems don't get solved all cultures will go wild and run amok. In the end we life in a capitalist world and capitalism is fucking materialism. It determines any culture that takes part.


| It's time to learn the meaning of terrorism holy cow. Terrorism needs claims to be terrorism. Otherwise it's just some random attack. A teenager doing mass shooting for being dump over the night is just a stupid child having shitty life and not having some fked up logic. If someone kill another and some third party claim it + declare shit like "we are going to commit more shit in tbe future for propaganda/religious/shithole purpose" there you have terrorism.


| >>294786 >>294789 You've just proven my point. You've claimed that this entire thing regarding the burqas for instance is the same within the entirety of Europe. Despite the fact that certain countries oriented the debate towards a specific direction. France for instance discussed this at the beginning of 2002. The reasons were that France is considered a non-religious country in terms of policy and it was a discussion whether this would fit with the ideal of the governing.


| >>294864 In modern France the debate shifted towards a criticism of Islam through populistic means. What was it in Denmark then? exactly what it was in France in 2002. The debate there at the moment is regarding the fact that the country's culture revolves outside of religion. What's the debate in Hungary and Poland? Well, there's it's discussed through the idea that it doesn't fit with the Christian traditions of these nations. In the Balkans it's also taken a different turn.


| >>294867 Your "poor" vs "rich" is also problematic because there's a difference in how that's defined in each country. In Eastern Europe the majority of the population has their own home of residence and a job but a lot of people consider themselves in poverty. In Western Europe it's people who lack their own home and jobs and who have to live off of the state that are considered poor. Generalization can happen within culture, sure. But it can also happen in economy.


| >>294868 And if problems are looked at as if they're black and white you're only causing further failures in states. This has nothing to do with capitalism vs communism. Applying things without context renders unexpected consequences and history has proven this time and time again. Would the debate of capitalism vs communism even apply in countries where neither system works? Globalistic theories are weak in the regard of context but they're liked for their global "meaning".


| >>294867
For me this whole debates about cultural identity is nothing but a distraction from the real problems. I personally give a fuck about Islam, Christanity or the Nation which rather defends or offends this uneccary stuff than actual providing freedom, fairness and wealth. I identify myself and others over work, skills and knowledge. I just want to do the stuff I like to do and ideally live from it. Culture is for entertainment to legitme turn brain off or distract.


| >>294950
Instead of laws for what people are allowed to have on their heads or not and how they should decorate their bureaus, I want more enagement. against corruption, monopoles, arm race and environment destruction. This is the real stuff which affect my life in the end, not some immaterial values. You think most people in the Islamic world really believe in god? Don't make me laugh. Most just pretend to have their peace or at least justify the usual capitalist selfishnes.


| >>294874
Also, currently we see that particularism is not able to solve global issues. Culturalists discuss about how many angels fit on the tip of a needle, while the real world problems just become more and more.


| >>294960 >>294950 Key words here are "for me". I've explained this countless times but culture at the end of the day is piling up meanings that make sense of our environment. You can read up on many anthropologists which can describe this to you. At the point that we began living societally, material value and cultural value became imbalanced and it contextually depends on the person or group of people on the importance of either side.


| >>294964
I see this "culture determines everything" attitude is more like part of the problem than a solution. Again I proclaim for more materialism and more universalism and less immaterialism and particularism.


| >>294967 This is a logical issue that goes a bit further. Consider that There's the notion of culturalism/materialism through your perceptions. The issue becomes that the material in itself has no meaning. It just exists. The same could be said for cultural meanings without a base. That base doesn't necessarily have to be physical since meanings can pile onto each other.

The problem of global theories is not related to cultural theories alone.


| >>293861
Jews, you mean. Jews are not white.
>>294033
Global white fertility is reducing overall. Mostly white countries are becoming "multicultural" (No, Tokyo is not at all multicultural you twats). No one is tripping over themselves to immigrate to the Philippines, to subsaharan Africa.. And South Africa is having a real genocide right now. I'm sure you faggots will frame that as "poor overthrowing the rich" instead of the black on white that it is though.


| >>293828
Sure, butter knives and guns - everything a normal houshold needs. Wait, what?


| >>293527
The scary thing is: we really don't know. From day to day we realize the sad truth that there are people that REALLY believe such shit. And they become more and louder. It's really scary.


| >>295155
My mother is from Nigeria and when she visited home she mentioned that the amount of chinese people there is so high that you wouldnt even think it was a black country at first glance. So im not sure what this "only white countries have immigrants" jargon is coming from.The same is happening to Uganda and other countries as well.




| >>295155
As for the South African genocide,it is rich vs poor not white vs black. There are white people who live im ghettos and shit neighborhoods over in SA but they arent being targeted. So not a "white" genocide.


| >>295155
In conclusion the only countries that will remain the same 100 years from now are asian countries. This is a fact that was thought to us in our preteens yet, people who finally started paying attention are walking around calling themselves "redpilled." Its sad and shows how slow to the uptake you guys are. Just worry about your own life and remember that there will come a day when none of this shit will matter. Stop stressing yourself.


| Taught*


| >>295452
This. The Chinese have 'invested' in many African countries by utilizing corruption to get contracts for Chinese companies employing exclusively Chinese workers to build African infrastructure, while the natives endure poverty & unemployment. The US isn't alone in leaking money through deficit trade & migrant workers. In fact rather than white America, these are much greater problems for predominantly Negro countries, because they have so much less to go around anyway.


| >>295155 None of your points except the murders in South Africa are any evidence of genocide. "Fertility rates decrease, getting multicultural = genocide" gimme a fuckin break...

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