Are you gurls getting ready for the chinese century?
| Not really, we should all probably start learning mandarin.
| China fuxked their economy though lmao
| Neo-China arrives from the future
| >>1096631
They're currently in a nationwide real estate crisis that's gonna take decades to "manage" because if it falls their entire economy will go belly up. They fucked up big time.
| Assuming there's any truth to that claim im the first place and this isn't rightoid-cuck huffing the "le china bad" copium in concerning quantities.
| >>1096695
china is a ethnonationalist corporatocracy that engages in muslim genocide, so it gets the rightoid stamp of approval, actually
you may now give me your (You)s
| >>1096696
it's both funny and concerning how well that describes the current state of america as well
| >>1096687 >>1096694
Just read up on it instead of guessing shit. That's how you're always wrong about everything. You don't want to be one of those, are you?
| >>1096703 but I did read on the real state crisis on China and China hasn't exploded yet
Sounds like another nothingburger
| >>1096714 The only concerning thing is that it's been going on for like 5 years at this point. But it could end up being nothing still.
| >>1096714
Skimming an article while taking a piss isn't reading up on a subject, g/u/rlfriend.
>>1096719
Their economy is basically taken hostage by the situation so they're unable to grow for now and in the near future. A volatile economy isn't only massive explosions or whatever you two seem to believe.
Long term(100+ years) their investment in Africa might make China the top dawg though.
| >>1096756
How is it taken hostage? If a bunch of bozos lose money on worthless property, they still have factories and farms and mines right?
| >>1096805 it do, unfortunately.
the corruption has reached poorfag euroshithole country levels of blatant.
| >>1096756
given how their Belt and Road projects have turned out in Central Asia, I don't think we can count on Chinese infrastructure to last more than a decade or two in Africa.
| >>1096825 problem with africa is africans. Societally they haven't reached even medieval stage and literally have no concept of society beyond their village/tribe. They are incompetent and borderline retarded unless educated abroad. This is NOT their fault, this is their environment.
There are only two valid ways to deal with africa:
1. Ignore it
2. Remove africans from it
Every other compromise will very quickly spiral into sunk cost fallacy on every step.
| t. long time subcontractor for a large Ethiopian company
| >>1096826
>racist drivel which everyone educated and/or smart knows isn't true
This is the American education system in action.
| >>1096843 everyone educated and/or smart ignores africa as an actual real place. It is an abstract idea for them.
| >>1096826
>Societally they haven't reached even medieval stage and literally have no concept of society beyond their village/tribe.
Strong words from someone, who obviously hasn't reached medieval stage himself. You'r understanding/portrayal of "the africans" comes from an era where "enlightened" western cultures fell back into an morally and intelectual darkness peaking in pretty archaic fascistoid nightmares no african country or culture has ever reached yet.
| >>1096827
Do you really believe your restricted, post-colonialist view on Ethiopia qualifies you to judge about all nations/cultures in Africa, which probably are more diverse and complex than European ones?
| >>1096844
The weirdness of calling africa a "place" is probably already a progress from calling it a "country" which is also pretty common for many bad educated westerners (especially from the US)...
| >>1096826
this
>problem with africa is africans.
Really pisses me off. Who do you think supported those kind of africans you have in mind? Who systematically opressed and murdered progressive africans, who wanted tho modernize and develop their contries?
>Societally they haven't reached even medieval stage and literally have no concept of society beyond their village/tribe.
This is not exclusive to africans. Those people also exist in the west. We call them fascists.
| >>1096932 >>1096933 >>1096938 >>1096939
How many citizens of african countries have you interacted with, like real people and not some refugee/migrant/academic, and have you ever dealt with a government of any african country in a meaningful capacity?
| China dialogue switched to Addressing b8 about Africa.
(You) fell for the classic blunder
| >>1096949
So refugee/migrant/academic aren't "real people" to you?
Most african societies are capitalist class societies, just as any other society on the world. You have a small educated elite with libtards and concucks and uneducated masses who follow the next best asshole as their leader - just like anywhere else in the world. Yes, they lack of heavy industry because of western interventions during colonialism and cold war.
| However some africans became insanely rich by trading "their" countries ressources (and they have a lot) with also insanely rich westerners.
Especially north africa offers much labour for europe. Do the "real people" benefit from those circumstances? Not much. But the same can be said about the "real people" in other countries. Cold war is over, the shop window to the ussr is closed. Social-economical achievements are rolled back and fascism is also back.
| By the way personal experience is restricted to Morocco and Nigeria. Already these two countries are so much different that I find it ridicolous to generalize anything about "africa" (and its people) as a whole.
You talk about uneducated and tribalist africans and at the same time judge about the extremly (!) diverse nations and people of an entire continent based on some very specific business experiences.
| >>1096951
Chinese-African relations have intensified massively. It turns out that China is a "better" colonial power than the west. Of course they are racist and exploitative too, which goes hand in hand with any kind of colonialism.
But many africans are way more positive about china than about the west, since they see a role model for them: A culture colonialized and humiliated by the west emancipated and risen under the iron rule of a dictatorship proclaiming "communism".
| Many westerners are hyper-retarded smugs, who don't understand anymore how the exploitative system, established by their ancestors, works and benefits them. The most ridicolous example are rightards, who are now concerned about "islamism", while they forget how their political predecessors supported islamists all over the world to fight the super evil uber villain of "socialism". In china they luckily couldn't succeed.
| i mean you're right but
| >>1097027 a refugee/migrant/academic are by definition ceeded their rights of representing the people - first two by migrating, third - by associating with the guild. You have not talked to africans that try to build africa or live in it if you talked to them, thats why I exclude them. They do not contribute to your lived experience with africa.
So, will you answer my questions?
| The government one specifically
This thread is closed.
| I'm not ready