Tell me my dear gurlies, will Trump be the main culprit behind the USA's turning point of falling empire?
| >american empire falling
>because they alienated a vassal state
the education system that is ultimately responsible for your post is more a culprit of that than any single president
| >ally
well, you've got me responding, i suppose that's as good of a bait as any on this board
| We always saw US like that, Trump's difference is that he's kinda honest in his way. Europe is continuously fucked by the US, but now he acknowledges it, that we are their vassal and nothing more.
| What were the US and Europe(most of it) right at World War 2? Allies.
And the USA did pretend to be that at least, 100% real no fke confirmed by Stephen Hawking and Taylor Swift. There's no way to deny that.
The thing is, now, it doesn't look like it.
and I wonder if the USA will be crazy enough to attack EU with Russia as their unwritten buddy?
Maybe all hell will be loose and things will go crazy in general
| Most of the eu's military power comes from the USA, Germany is shitting itself currently as they move away from needing the us military. Recruitment campaigns that are getting so little volunteers that they are tossing the idea of a draft out there. French politicians say their people need to come to terms that their kids will need to die fighting Russia. All this to say I fear not the threat of the eu or how our president acts. Instead I fear how retarded your own leaders are.
| >>1081322
>Americans' reputation is not going to recover from this one...
The last time "America" (the USA) had a positive reputation was during and shortly after WWII. During cold war and afterwards they constantly ruined it, especially in latin-america, the near- and middle east but also in many parts of europe: Support of various puppet dictators and terrorist groups, military interventions that violate international law, spying on allies, etc.
| Trump is just the last nail in the coffin of USAs international reputation. Well, except for other fascistoids, who have a simmiliar rotten agenda like Trump. At least until they realize that "MAGA" can only be achieved by keeping them down. Just have a look at Russia, how it lets down its allies. Those who yell "your country first!" lie to you in two different ways:
1. You have a country
2. It will unavoidable lead to wars between countries, since only one can be first.
| >>1081336
No. There is a lot of legitimate criticism on the US, which is not russian trolling/propaganda. She didn't say or imply that being a Russian vessel is the better alternative.
Fact is that Europe is divided and massively dependent from the US, may it be for their military precence, energy and it-infrastructure.
Best thing Europe could do is to establish itself as an united independent block between the US and China. Unfortunately russia and western europe sided instead.
| The barbaric tribes hated Rome
| >>1081336
I'm not, I'm french, US has been stealing our companies since decades and no one bats an eye, and they're stealing all the international deals France ever get. But we consider them our best ally...
There's always been a marginal anti us feeling, I remember 9/11 lots said US asked for it.
But for the last 20 years, we've really been treated like shit.
| >>1081421 we still pay your military budget, also bro go import some more Muslims who want you dead, maybe that'll help bring your companies back
| Countries were strong when they had lots of resources and cheap labor and technology and trade. The USA let its wages get too high and provided too many protections and old age pensions so it got bodied by China, where life is cheap. So did Europe.
Both still have resources, technology, and trade, so they aren’t Somolia, and life is good, but they can never achieve great things without the pile of meat to throw into the maw of capitalism/war
| Unless trump affects the birth rate, he can only accelerate or decelerate the time line.
| a dying empire will incubate a totalitarian state
the dominos aren't just set, they are already falling
we are past a US world supremacy now
it's a world of multiple powers again, a world of wolves
and once you pass the top, pass your peak, you're not coming back up again
never
| >>1081454
This. If USA falls we're all fucked forever. Whoever is cheering for the fall of the USA are brainwashed retards who can't think ahead.
| >>1081427
What a load of bullshit. Tell me, why is your shitty country failing over and over at greatness again? Oh, because you're corrupt, uneducated and hostile towards people smarter than you. Oops!
| However, yeah, I can also feel the approaching collapse in the air. The problem is, there is no global power replacement. EU is fragmented, Russia larped as Soviet Union and killed its population in Ukraine, China is not quite there yet and doesn't even try to expand its influence (rip Taiwan though).
Maybe a new form of government will emerge? In any case, this is interesting.
God I hope I am wrong, all of my savings are in USD
| >>1081457 if your eu, your leaders are actively worse. If your asia, it really depends but alot of their govs are worse than eu. Same thing goes for any south American gov. If your slav, kekw
| >>1081409
Yeah, don't read. Reading bad. Reading makes you stupid. Go watch fox news. It has many pictures. It has boom! and bang!. It has short phrases. It uses simple words. All printed with CAPITAL LETTERS. USA GOOD! CAPITALISM GOOD. OUTSIDE ONLY EVIL BAD SOCIALIST! SELF-CRITICISM IS EVIL SOCIALIST TOO! USA! USA! USA!
| >>1081467
>all of my savings are in USD
Your personal savings will not save you. I doubt you have enough to finance your personal stronghold against the masses that have no savings. Welfare estates once were established by the rich for a reason. Not because they were so nice and humanitarian. It was because they had fear. The social question from the early stages of industrialization was never solved, only offshored and postponed.
| >>1081455
>Whoever is cheering for the fall of the USA are brainwashed retards who can't think ahead.
Or it is exactly the opposite case:
The USA as the leader of the so called "democratic, capitalist and western" world failed. After two world wars and many brutal and failed military interventions during and after cold war why give this system a third chance? The USSR didn't even get a second chance.
| >>1081495 both world wars started in... Europe, what are you on about ruski? And alot of the "failed" interventions did what they were set out to do, Vietnam? The one everyone loves to say we lost hard, had Vietnam sign the paris accord. And the ussr didnt get a second chance is communism failed. Gotta say it again, communism failed.
| >>1081555 this comment proves you are either a millennial, boomer, or younger ('-')7 welcome soldier
| >>1081555
Sounds like a pointless and wasted life. It's your choice after all, but please don't be mad when others hopefully chose a different and probably better path.
| There have been empires which went down then up again. U just don’t think about them. If there was another World War Two in all other developed countries USA would be back where it was. I wouldn’t obsess over collapse stuff. It’s usually a psychological thing people just trying to feel strong. Just go where good jobs are and you’ll be fine gurl.
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| With Trump angering Greenland and Denmark (and by extension the EU), I think so gurlies... Americans' reputation is not going to recover from this one...