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Incels
| For many reasons, which also have to do with why they are incels
They are too picky, too unattractive, bad personality, bad luck, etc.
And then there is also statistics
How many incels are male and how many are female? How many are gay, bi or hetero? How many actually willing to deal with all the responsabilities?
Hope that answers the question =D
| Some of them don't even believe in the existence of causality.
| I kinda hate that technically I am considered an incel due to some connotations, even though I fully admit and acknowledge that it's entirely my fault for not bettering myself and not actually trying to change it. Although, since I know all that and still do nothing, maybe that actually makes me a volcel..?
| Ok then OP, where is potential incel partner in my area?
| I never really got why being in a relationship was so important to incels, like yeah it's nice to be with someone but it's not the end of the world if you're single. You have more free time & no responsibility to anyone.
Imo it's much better to be single than just to date someone only for the sake of being in a relationship.
| so much hate against incels and then they wonder why they can't date anybody
| >>744291
If you've ever talked to an incel then you would understand why people dislike them so much. Incels treat others like shit, don't practice hygiene, expect other people to tend to all of their needs, never talked to the gender they're attracted to for any other reason that to fuck and then don't understand why people don't want to be around them.
When you then try to explain it to them they don't listen, blame it on everyone except themselves and treat you like shit.
| >>744331 that could be said for just about anyone who is going trough mental turmoil, they distance themselves, dont think straight, ignore basic necessities, trouble with communication.
Its not fair to be that hateful towards them in a era were we are incentivising mental health and all.
| >>744339
It does sound like him though. He constantly blames everyone else when he derails threads/acts shitty and is clueless about why people dislike him so much. He's also very vocal about being an incel.
>>744337
lol no, Mental turmoil doesn't auomatically turn you into a disrespecting asshole who blames everyone else for their appearance and behaviour. Must be a you thing.
| >>744337
As someone who struggles heavily with mental health, I can tell you with 100% certainty, that you're wrong.
Not everyone acts like an asshole because they're struggling with personal issues and mental health, and the thing that makes incels even worse is that they make that their identity. They base their personality and identity around hating women, treating others like absolute shit and not taking care of themselves. They fucking glorify it instead of trying to get out.
| >>744350 not every one experiences things the same way, people who suffer from isolation tend to distance themselves more from society
| Empathy is hard to practice but you should try to see things from other perspectives and understand that people are not demons who hate or act in a nasty way just for being evil
| >>744356
No one's saying that they're demons or evil, everyone is saying that incels make bad decisions, which have consequences like others not wanting to keep their company.
Also having empathy for someone doesn't mean that you excuse their behaviour. I can understand why people become incels, but when someone starts to blame women for their own bad choices that's no longer a matter of empathy, it's just a bad choice.
| >>744360 anyone can hate call a trauma or a streak of mistakes a "bad choice". No one is excusing incels, having empathy to understand them means understanding that their "bad choices" are defensive stances they took to avoid getting hurt.
If a fat person started to blame thinner people would you call I a trauma and recommend treament or a call it "bad choice" and complain how they are hating on thin people and how they dont have empathy?
A good attitude is always welcome.
| >>744362
Trauma ain't an abdication of responsibility for your actions.
You can't choose whether or not you're traumatised, but you decide how you deal with it and whether or not you're going to inflict that harm you've suffered onto other people.
If you choose to inflict harm onto others then you don't get to hide behind trauma as a reasoning.
Also we all suffer from trauma to varying degrees. Incels aren't special in that regard
| >>744364 >If you choose to inflict harm onto others then you don't get to hide behind trauma as a reasoning.
Also we all suffer from trauma to varying degrees. Incels aren't special in that regard
Yes you are tottaly right, I just wish people were more consitent with that, not all groups are treated the same out there.
| >>744355 >>744356
I never demonized them. I never said they're evil. They're bad people, yes, but there are obviously reasons for. You don't gotta act like you're the only one who knows psychology 101.
Whenever I get the chance to help someone like that, I do it. But a lot of them refuse help no matter how much time, kindness and support you give them. I also think that hurting people isn't okay. If you're being a cunt and treating people like shit you should be called out for it.
| Like, I understand why they're acting like that, but that doesn't make it okay or justify it in any way, at all. So I'm not gonna treat someone nicely if they consistently treat me like shit. At that point I would just be intentionally subjecting myself to abuse, and I ain't really about that.
| >>744375 I agree with this. I've met a lot of people who make a similar argument, though, but then go on to say things like, "so we should just ignore or even do harm to incels entirely." That's usually because they think that most incels are beyond saving. So, I want to say that the incels who are refusing to get helped aren't always entirely unhelpable; it might just be that you're the wrong person or at the wrong time.
| incel just means involuntarily celibate. why are you all dreaming them up to be hateful? what the fuck am i missing?
| >>744426
>incel just means involuntarily celibate.
It doesn't really mean that. Words can change meaning and the majority of people use the word incel to describe certain people who hate/blame women for their own faults.
I mean you still don't use the word Heroin to refer to medicine, are you?
| Some incel subcultures(like 4chan) still differences between the meanings of incel and have made up a new word to describe the toxic variant. Chud. It's a referense to the movie CHUD btw.
| >>744452
>the majority of people use the word incel to describe certain people who hate/blame women for their own faults
So you are saying that all incels are men? Wtf?
>you still don't use the word Heroin to refer to medicine, are you
How does that compare? And what if I are?
| >>744455
>How does that compare?
Words change meaning. Heroin and incel both changed from their original definition. That's how it compares.
>And what if I are?
You are of course free to use whatever words you want to express yourself. But if you chose to use different words than other people you'll run into conflicts and misunderstandings, catfish?
| There is still debate about the meaning of incel so saying that it just changed isnt the best approach
And then again not there are female incels, there is an overlap with nice guys and gals and then there is the old word that incel replaced but is still being used to this day, virgin, oh and there is also simp in the whole game.
| >>744470
>There is still debate about the meaning of incel so saying that it just changed Who are debating these things? Everyone seems to be in agreement.
| >>744507
>There is still debate about the meaning of incel so saying that it just changed
Who are debating these things? Everyone seems to be in agreement.**
| >>8a5a86 >>5e11a4 >>8cdc18 they are all presenting the idea that not all incels are men and that not all of them are irrecoverable
| >>744331
Eww... that makes me an incell.
Thou I'm just very shy and asocial.
But you're all complaining about the incells that complain about others
| >>744530
There's that toxic mentality you're known for, Midia-kun. All I'm asking is for you to back up one of your vague statements and when you can't you go on the attack.
You still haven't backed up your statement btw. Because you can't. Because we both know it's a lie.
This is exactly the reason why people dislike you so fucking much.
| >>744662
>This is exactly the reason why people dislike you so fucking much
You're all alone on your shit, buddy, I like midia-kun andd you're the one piling up on her. ALSO you're the one who started this crap, so just pull your pants up and fuck off.
| >>744184 >>744452 >>744426 >>744455 >>744462
Here it is, people debatting about the definition in this very thread, but you were so busy targeting on me that you couldnt even read the thread like a normal person.
You are toxic, you target me on other threads, you go out of your way to be an asshole to me on boards that arent /new/, you are the one causing your problems here.
If people dislike me here I dont care, if some like me, cool thanks I appreciate it.
| >>744573
I guess.
>>744601
Never mind, I will now only refer to myself as Chadcel.
>>744667
I'm not debating the definition, I'm debating myself even belonging to the class in the first place.
| >>744667
I noticed you linked my own posts and claims I'm debating the meaning of incel... I'm obviously not debating it at all. I explained that there's a set definition and no one have managed to prove otherwise.
The word incel has a clear definition as presented by the posts you yourself linked.
2 of the posts you linked wasn't even about the definition of incel either... wtf??
| >>744667
>You are toxic, you target me on other threads, you go out of your way to be an asshole to me on boards that arent /new/, you are the one causing your problems here.
All I did was to ask you to evaluate your vague statement and you got on the offense and attacked me for it. How are you not the asshole in that scenario?
You always do this? Why??
| >>744676
>I'm not debating the definition
But one of your supposed examples of people debating the definition is a link to your own post??? So, that's another "example" that's void.
| >>744682 >>744667 have either of you yet considered the possibility that you're both thread derailing assholes? it takes two to argue.
| Among us
| >>744682 Yep Im always attacking, always, you never do anything right?
https://boards.dangeru.us/new/thread/744433
| https://boards.dangeru.us/new/thread/743863
Right?
| https://boards.dangeru.us/new/thread/743628
Right?
| https://boards.dangeru.us/u/thread/742863
Right?
| https://boards.dangeru.us/u/thread/741732
Even in threads like this one here you go out of your way to do this bullshit
| >>744688
I was just trying to get answers to my on-topic questions though. Midia-kun was the one getting confrontational and refused to participate in the threads topic until I had to back him up against the wall and force the answers out of him.
This is the only way you can have an on-topic debate with him since he will always steer it off-track unless you stay on top of him.
All he had to do was to initially answer the question instead of getting toxic and confrontational.
| >>744704
This is my post that supposedly "started" it all. >>744521
How is that a bait post or an attempt to shit on this site?? It's a normal question that anyone(except for Midia-kun) can answer without getting confrontational.
| >>744700 Im not the one going from thread to thread going "ah midia-chan did this, midia-kin does that, haha lol you sound like Midia-san and bla bla bla"
You literally got all pissy just because I asked for more information about p2p because in your words "I already did that."
| >>744709
I'm not doing that either. That must be someone else. All I did was to ask you an on-topic question in >>744521
and you got needlessly confrontational and refused to answer the question and setting the gears in motion to derail this thread, like you _always_ do.
| >>744706 what about the other threads she linked? You can't even say it isnt't you because we all know you and midia-kun have been going at it for a while
| >>744712 you referenced the incel the causality in your first post>>744149 and you did it on other threads too, your lies are laughable
| >>744717
The thing is you don't know it's Midia-kun until after he gets toxic and confrontational.
Before that you're just asking normal questions to any g/u/rl and it sucks having to think twice before responding to someone in case it's Mr.Derailo on the other end.
| >>744720
Yes, so? We have self-proclaimed incels on this site who don't believe in the existence of causality and that's hilarious. It's certainly on-topic for a thread about incels, no?
What even is your point here?
| >>744724
I tried that but it doesn't work either. He will continue to respond and derail every argument you make even if you ignore him, making conversation with other anons much harder.
If he loses a debate he will kill the thread one way or another. It's his modus operandi.
| >>744728
https://boards.dangeru.us/u/thread/741732
https://boards.dangeru.us/new/thread/744433
https://boards.dangeru.us/new/thread/743863
https://boards.dangeru.us/new/thread/743628
https://boards.dangeru.us/u/thread/742863
https://boards.dangeru.us/u/thread/741732
Yeah sure, go on
| >>744728 so stop posting in the thread? or ignore everything he posts? both are good options. feeding it for a 70 post thread only encourages the process.
| Latin doesnt make you look honest
| Because like, Im sure that if they dont try to call me they wont even notice Im there
| >>744737 if I dont they start accusing other to be me, like in that eugenics thread, but sure I will try and see
| >>744731
But that doesn't fix anything. As I just now said ignoring him doesn't work.
He will still insert himself into the discussion despite not being acknowledged and twist what you say to suit his agenda. This makes the discussion very hard to follow for other people and almost always leads to the death of said discussion.
| ok, now for the magic trick. now that you are both talking to me instead of each other, I'm going to put this thread in the thread hider and give you two the opportunity to also stop responding to this thread. good luck!
| >>744740
cont
This is how he operates. He lies about and twists the points of the debate and expects people to acknowledge them as truth. If they don't or if they question the validity of his lies and twists he will get confrontational and toxic and kill the thread.
All this even if you ignore him.
| >>744740 "inserting" by that you mean entering the thread and typing there like a normal person but suddenly you go "midia-kun?" And lash out?
Like here: https://boards.dangeru.us/new/thread/744433
| >>744742 if your problem is that all I say is lies to you could just ignore the lies and not go haywire
| >>744743
You do know you've been doing this for over a year and people just started mentioning Midia-kun like 2 weeks ago, right?
| If I see this shit present in any thread on this website again, I will wipe each and every Midia-related argument and response from a thread, and institute a ban, as its essentially spam.
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| Why don't they just.. date each other?