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I want skirts
| Feel you OP but Idk that'd have to be your choice. I normally wear my mom's when I'm alone at home (while always having a pair of pants nearby if I need to panic change into them)
| Like now that I actually wrote it I sound dumb as shit, but that's kinda my choice as I hope to move out somewhere where people don't give a fuck or maybe even find it hot
| I mean you could get a kilt, it's basically the same thing but "more manly" bonus points if you learn the bagpipes
| Extra bonus, learn to use a claymore and behead anyone who dare question your choices in an honorable duel
| >>743887 >>743889
It's not dumb. I wish I at least did that instead of just nothing. And, I'm also hoping to move to a better place for this as well.
>>743907
Funny
| Just wear a kilt its not that hard
| you are strange persons
| >>744194
That was good.
>>744146
People don't wear kilts here, at all. It would just be the same thing but I'd look more masculine, which would defeat the purpose of it.
>>744204
Oh?
| >>744237
But if I can make it look like anything I want, then we're just back at zero! Then I might as well just get a skirt! There's also the fact that weighted isn't something I want. I want something light.
| >>744246 ok lets be practical
>Would it hurt more to have it and just never really get to wear it?
Only if you feel like its wasted money
>Should I just say "fuck gender stereotypes" and go all out and take the hits for whoever else here who may be in a similar situation?
If you feel strong enough for that, YES
>Would it just be a dumb waste of money and make shit worse?
Depends on your personal answer to your first 2 questions
| >>744253
I don't think I'd feel like it was wasted money to be honest. In one way or another, it would be progress, and of my parents turn out to be accepting it could make my home life better until I get to move out.
You know, I want to be. I know I'm able to take more hits than most people, no matter how hard they are. I've also got some very charismatic people with good influence here who I know would be supportive. So, shit. Idk if I could handle it but I really do want to.
| >>744253
For the last one, I guess the answer would be no. I mean, one of the few people I've told about my situation keeps trying to push me to stop being a bitch and just do it. I mean, shit. It's not even that long ago that I had a sleepless night where I was literally crying while looking at female clothing and shit. It's kind of pathetic. Like, I wear tops publicly. But the only time I haven't fully covered it with a jacket was on an empty buss where the driver couldn't see.
| >>744266
I guess you're right, huh?
Goddamn it. Am I really about to let some anon push me towards a potentially life changing decision?
| >>744268 in the end, it all depends on how brave you feel, brave enough to complain? Brave enough to do it? Brave enough to just talk? Brave enough to think?
You decide it and I think you can do it
| >>744270
You right, you right.
I think, I talk, I complain, and usually at that point I do something about it.
When other people don't do shit it usually annoys me and then I do it instead so they'll stop being a bitch about it.
Right now I'm being a bitch about it and to my knowledge there ain't anyone else here who's gonna pull something like that anytime soon. I'm leaving the country sometime next year, so if if I want shit to change before that I guess I gotta step the fuck up.
| >>744287
Fuck you. I'm actually gonna do this, aren't I?
I mean, I gotta take some steps first. I gotta come out to all the people close to me, then I gotta actually buy that fit I'm looking at with that skirt, and then I gotta go out in public with it on a day where I'm feeling predominantly feminine.
I'm part of an org here. I'm pretty well respected and got some influence in it as well, and then org has influence over a lot of the youth here + in the local media here.
| So I would have to let the homies know, let the person with the most influence in the org know (which I already have), buy the clothes, and then wear the fit to one of the orgs events.
Then if I get shit or people try fucking me up for it I can stand my ground and I've got, like, half the room or more behind me + the most influential person there.
The events usually get streamed, so that shit's gonna reach the people who aren't there as well if someone makes a big deal out of it.
| Oh sorry If I sounded forceful, it just feels bad to see someone holding themselves back
| I'll probably get some questions and shit as this is something completely foreign to the people who are local here, which would be a completely free way to educate hateful people, people who are curious and people who might be in similar situations.
After the initial thing I just gotta keep it up. Just gotta keep going, not back down, nevere repress or hide ever again, and back up the people who might get the courage to speak up for themselves.
| >>744293
No no. I say fuck you, and I mean that, but it's not in a bad way.
You said the words I needed to hear homie. I've been sitting on this shit for years. I've stayed quiet for such a long time and to be honest I think I've been subconsciously looking for excuses to stop staying quiet and finally pull something.
One of the few people I've come out to, it inspired him to come out as well, and if I can do that shit on a big scale I don't care if I fucking bleed for it.
| You could start small by wearing it home, then going for groceries, slowlly start to spread the idea in your work and then do it every day at anytime, there is no need to to rush to break the mold
| >>744300
I'm not gonna rush. Rushing is always a bad idea. I do shit slowly. Just, plant a little seed, throw a seemingly random hook or two out and take it from there.
I've converted racists and homophobes into some of the most accepting people I know through doing that over a long period of time. So, I'm not abandoning that.
But I think I wanna start with one of the regular events from that org I talked about before I do daily stuff, because at that org I've always got backup.
| I won't be going every day since some days I prefer masculine look and clothing, but I want to get to the point where I do it whenever I don't.
So, I'll start by gaining acceptance from those close to me, test it out at home, then the org, then regular life.
You gotta remember that I've got at most a year and a half to do this. So I can't rush, and I won't rush, but I can't procrastinate either. I wanna openly be myself by either the start of end of summer.
| Good plan
| Good for you, be your best self
| So, now I'm 4/4 when it comes to locals here. This is actually happening, huh?
| >>744816
Thank you :3
I guess I just gotta get 2-3 more and then the rest is up to me.
I'm scared, but I'm excited. I've honestly been feeling a lot lighter after I started opening up to people and, you know. Having people actually recognise me for who I am and not just what they assumed I was.
It feels, relieving.
| Im proud you op, you are going strong.
| >>744827
Thanks! Even though it's from anons the support really does mean a lot.
I'm doing my best. I've realised that I've done absolutely nothing for way too long. So to make up for that I'm gonna go all out and not hold back. I don't really know if that's strong or foolish and I don't know for how long I'll be able to stay in this mindset for, so now's the time.
Might sound weird, but I want to push myself into a place where even if I want to I can't back down or get out of it.
| Since it's a good thread to ask do any of you know a good place to hide panties? I've already found a place to buy them discreetly but I want somewhere in my room where they won't be found
| >>744923
Mhh, that's hard to say. I don't really know what your room looks like and stuff. A drawer or something is where I would put it, or if you think someone would find them then you could hide them under your mattress maybe?
I honestly want panties too, but they're kind of hard to find for me. I'm tall and not overly skinny, and I have a bit of a big butt plus a little, uh, little bit big in front too. So it's really hard to find something that fits.
Could you help me out?
| >>744931
I'm not too familiar with American stores but maybe a Walmart? The place I'll buy mine from is a supermarket that sells your typical supermarket stuff (food, alcohol, hygienic products etc etc) *and* clothing. My plan is to buy in self check-out with other items and play it cool so is not assumed to be for me.
If you do that though avoid any alcohol or store locked item that would require an employee to approach.
| >>744931
I though under the mattress but here we turn the mattress around every few months, I recently though of a can (I collect them) but the risk is still minimum for sometimes people are curious of the collection
| Why not go full on bond and do something like drawer with double bottom?
| >>744978
I'm not American...
I don't know where you got that from. I'm OP, my ID changed, but that doesn't make me any less Norwegian.
| >>745008
Sorry, I assumed since most of my internet encounters are. Do you have a store like the one I mentioned there though? Cause my idea before that was your common clothing store after conveniently buying (and carrying with me) valentine chocolates.
>>744993
My mattress has a hole I'm 100% hiding them inside the mattress thank you!
| >>745046
Mhh. We don't really have any all-in-one stores like that. I would have to go specifically to a clothing store. And, well, that would be uncomfortable to put it mildly. Small town so good chance of there being people who know me there, and, well, my biggest problem is finding ones that would fit me. I can't exactly go to a clothing store and try on panties. Doesn't really work like that sadly.
I guess I could go there with a female friend though if they'd be okay with it.
| >>745048
I'd say that, if you can afford it, get the biggest size. It'll either fit or help you have a reference on which one should fit you for next time, I once read that to get panties get one size bigger than your current underwear and that should do.
If you have a female friend who would do that with you that's 100% better
| >>745051
I mean, I came out to here about all this shit and she said she's there for me and wants to help, so she might.
Honestly not sure if I have the money for that though. Clothing is really expensive here. But, I'll check some prices.
| >>745046 Imagine the police doing a drug raid and they find panties and dresses with only your dna on them
| >>745178.
That's an, interesting "what if". It sound kind of cute though :3
Unless they're not very accepting police officers, in which case it would be very not cute.
| What if the police officers are all females and they feel bad for you so they handcuff you to the bed and start to strip
| Just wear a skirt with nothing underneath
| Just buy yourself a kilt. You don't even have to move to Scotland for that.
| >>745510 >>745534
Aight. I just won't entertain this anymore.
I will be going to Scotland, like, as soon as shit opens up and I've got my vaccin. Ain't for kilts though, obviously.
| >>745536 I'm just joking but I hear it's a pretty beautiful place I hope you enjoy if you do actually go
Personal opinion was kilt *is* a skirt but with the history you have an easy way to deflect if you're uncomfortable telling people you just wanted to wear a skirt which is why my "more manly" was in quotes I literally don't see the difference but I don't know much about them so
| >>745537
Yeah, I understand, and that's fair.
I mean, the reason I want to to have some skirts is to feel more comfortable with and better express the fact that my brain's whole gender think doesn't exactly match my body, you feel?
So a kilt wouldn't really do anything that my regular clothes don't. I want to wear them to look more feminine when I'm feeling more feminine, not just for the general shape of the cloth.
| Fuck traditional gender roles, all my g/u/rls support each other and how they chose to present themselves
| >>745581
I love you. You're a goodie. 100% agree as well. All my homies are supportive. Fuck stereotypes and shit.
| I also wish women wore skirts.
| I want to wear skirt to express myself
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| I really want skirts. Like, really, really badly. But, if I were to wear it out in public I'd probably get fucked up for it, since I live in a small town in a small country.
I honestly don't know what to do. Would it hurt more to have it and just never really get to wear it? Should I just say "fuck gender stereotypes" and go all out and take the hits for whoever else here who may be in a similar situation? Would it just be a dumb waste of money and make shit worse?
Help!