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the weeb culture is dying
| I call this the post "anime crack era"
| Nah, not fading, just getting outnumbered
We have to teach the new weebs about the good stuff and that anime ain't all just about moe, lolis and lewding everything
| The weebs are already gone. They've been leaving since before your time. We cannot go back, no matter how much we want to. Moeblobs won. Lolibait won. Casual viewership won.
| Thank goodness.
| >>537839 tbh I'm into all three of those, life is stressful so I watch moe blob to be comfy ^-^ lolis are for cute not lewd and the world needs more in character ero doujinshi
| >>538282 Im also into it, but there's so much more than it that it's a shame to see those things overshadow the rest
| >>538224 this person is correct by the way, the "hardcore" fans are now a niche audience and anime has found its more mainstream audience, it's unlikely to change at all unless anime is suddenly as uncool land nerdy as it was in our childhood, though that isn't too say all is lost if no one caters to the niche then there's a void with money to be had, so it'll never truly die
| Well now I see that we really are fading. Yeah I guess these were good times. But I guess there always will be some underground stuff going on. In which no casual weeb will be interested in. I thought only anime was dying but yeah now I see that I'm dying too. Perhaps in Japan there are things that we love? Perhaps is even popular in there?
| Anime is going to get uncool really soon. People are gonna ruin it and then leave it because one day, there will be something better than anime. Watch them leave, watch them go. Time is ticking. It's just a fad now, but it'll lose all of it's appeal and people will become overwhelmed of it. Not now, not tomorrow, but soon. Real soon. And then they're gonna wonder what happened.
| >>538510 It's still semi-uncool. On one side is the 'cool kids' who joins in whatever seems like the most fun, on the other side is the growing mob of morally high assorted fruit tarts that want to end all anime because some people lewd lolis, or even because many anime feature high school students, which are still technically underage.
| >>537839
This. Anyway, no matter what kind of media it is, overtime more people will be exposed to it. Best thing to do is to leave a guide somewhere that most of us agree on. That last one the most difficult part though.
| I've always felt like a casual weeb. I barely even actually watch anime anymore, and I've forgotten most of my Japanese. But it still feels like a part of my identity, so I'm a little sad that it's getting popular. Then again, nothing good lasts forever.
| >>538510
I could see CGI and VR becoming the next mainstream replacing 2D anime. Then, maybe anime will cater to the og neets.
| >>538479 there is much more moe bullshit in japan than anywhere else and this is sad.
Fuck ecchi, fuck moe, fuck the people who watch it, because studios are encoureged to make it Instead of good stuff cause of them. Filthy otakus killed anime, at least the part where plot and character development are more important than their dank fantasies.
| >>538703
Just remember the moe and ecchi is only popular because it helps people the most in escaping their own lives. When life is terrible and your job soul crushing. Why would I want to watch something that has meaning and makes me think when I can watch something that makes me feel happy or aroused.
| >>538704
Especially since they put up nets on all the tall buildings and throwing yourself in front of a train would cause unconscionable delays.
| >>538704 if you feel that way you better do something about it instead of harming yourself by wasting time on this stuff.
| >>538740 like this is the majority of people who consume media I feel; movies, anime, games, all have tons of people escaping reality in their own preferred way
| >>538719 Escapism is necessary in the current state of the world, most jobs are boring, most relationships come with liabilities and concessions for both sides and adventuring outside of civilization is too dangerous with little to no real rewards
Without the escapism provided by all sorts of media the current society would collapse, maybe it'd be better in the long run but would be hell on a short term until things stabilize
| Wow i'm so glad i expressed my point in the right way on the original post.
This thoughts have been hammering in my head for almost 2 years now, first, i saw anime memes and thought "oh cool internet+anime that's the future" some kanna chan memes n' shit
Then in less than a month i saw a new community emerge, anime crack, some videos of ecchi anime with lil peep songs and a fuckload of transitions, sadboy stuff... it was everywhere, i felt like alone, a lonely og otaku,in a nuwrld.
| Both the otaku/hardcore community and the casual watchers are at fault.
Waifu and best girl discussions almost always contribute and worth nothing to the actual anime.
A: Best girl is xxx
B: That is a weird way to spell yyy
C: zzz is the best waifu material, change my mind (you can't)
These are the shitty staple discussion you can find in almost every anime discussion.
what do you expect when anime producer/studio see this trend? They are going to exploit the shit out of it.
| But in the end it is sad to see this culture that constitutes myself be transformed into something on this level... i'm really happy to have opened this discussion, i think some of you also felt the same
>>7f4752 that is really sad, it's like drugs and shit "he's sad he needs a way to escape the world, that's why he smokes crack"
If people like moe(and/or crack) they're free to like it as long they acknowledge there is someone going to (at least) criticize them
But i get yr point..
| When the hype and discussion is centered towards girls and meme, why would producers aim to create a great animated scenes/ solidly written story?
Just throw attractive slideshows of girls, add some beach episodes, and sell figurines.
People should have treated their waifu/best girl like their porn preferences/fetish. You can fap to them if you want, but fighting over them is a laughable effort since it is completely subjective and depends on your personal preferences.
| Dude no shit, they kinda did it with SAO II, i don't want to spoil it so i'm not going to, but the second half of the season is fucking pure fanservice
I felt like kirito was going to show sinon his third sword
| 神tm聊的刀剑神域
| 流脾嗷铁汁们
| >>538740
At least watch romance for god's sake, i do it myself. Like, i watched NHK ni Youkoso and felt very much relieved for some time. Ok, i get that everyone's trying to escape, i can agree with this. But why would you choose fecking lolis. There are plenty of mature pure girls in anime romance, like your april lie for example. Moe shit doesn't feel like a real thing to me, i can't personnaly immerse myself into that.
But eventually do what you want, i'm just a bit salty,sorry.
| >>d794b1 yea there are some decent anime there without the need of moe, i particularly don't understand
I mean, i think moe and lolis are like spice for food, it's not bad to put some, but it's painful to have JUST THAT
| I was born in 2001 and I'm now 18. I only got into anime around 2015-16 so I've only really been an otaku for a few years. I started out with Sao and other typical animes. But now I love shows like lain, ergo proxy and Evangelion. I love breakcore and I've been playing a bunch of retro games lately as well.
| Its kind of hard to relate to alot of the people my age because alot of then care about is Instagram and tiktok memes.Even my otaku friends never watch things like lain or cowboy bebop. Can't even relate to the music they listen to which is mainly hip-hop and rap.Im in love with breakcore, j-core, hardcore, and no one around me has interest in the music, anime, books I like. I just fucking hate all the generic shit the people my age like. I wish I experienced growing up in the 90s
| >>b1ebe1 oh my god this is exactly my situation! For you g/u/rl, are nothing short than a hero to a dying culture, we are, as i was reading your comment i thought maybe i wrote it and forgot it but hell not people like me do exist, this thread took a ton of weight off of my shoulders
| Feels good to see that people like this still exists!
| Weeb culture dying is a bad thing?
| >>4ab0a9 it depends on the term
I wrote weeb culture as it is a largely used term, but in fact i'm more inclined to using the word otaku, as in where i live(Brazil) the word weeb doesn't exist, we use the the term Otaku, and weeb itself it is a new concept to me
Some say weeb and weeaboo are two levels of the same thing being weeb just a fan and weeaboo being a japanese wannabe
So i'm unsure of how to answer your question
| I'd be glad that it's dying out so people don't have to label themselves dumb names because they enjoy cartoons made overseas lol
| >>540098 so the history of weeb is, wanabe Japanese or white Japanese> wapanese > (censored to) weeaboo > weeb
Weeb is generally less offensive than weeaboo since a lot of the weebs I know call themselves weebs but weeaboo being an older and less common term is usually meant to be offensive and say the original meaning, though some people don't find it offensive and some find weeb alone offensive
| In my perception people who use the term otaku instead of weeb are actual weeaboos who just want to use a Japanese word or just don't know it's derogatory in Japanese
Mind you this is from my circle and obviously it's different for other cultures and languages
| >>540394 Weeb associates with weaboo, someone who as 7f4752 said wants to be japanese (often in most superficial ways possible I'd add). Otaku means someone who's excessively into something, ain't something to be proud of, usually, as you do deviate from your peers. They are not equal. I believe the English equivalent is Geek.
| >>540419 >>7f4752 is me, the post you're replying to was the 2nd half because character limit
I'd liken weeb in the circles I'm in to nerd in English since no one uses it seriously anymore for the most part and few people are offended by it, again probably not every circle but most of the people i know that are weebs call themselves and each other weebs
| >>7f4752 firstly, thank you for explaining the terms weeb and weeaboo ♡ avoided me from using it in a bad way without knowing
Never been i USA, though i'd love to practice my english and know new people n stuff
But as i "kinda lived" in japan for a while(got stuck there because of the company and we stayed for more time we intended to) i managed to understand some slang with some relatives, and learned that otaku was kinda shameful in their culture, just as hikikomori
| But then i kept using the world otaku anyway in brazil because everytime i tried to explain it to a friend of mine here they'll just say "wow now you're being a true otaku just because you went to japan huh? OTAKU" so i kinda just gave up, americans have our own way to use words anyway
(Yea shut the fuck up south americans r still americans aaaa kurosseeeeeeeeee KISAMAAAAA URUSAAAI)
| I think a lot of people just saw how toxic it can get. For example, I went to an anime club at my school, and it's scary. Half of them don't take showers, a lot of them are annoying, and a lot of them are into cringe anime like SAO. Idk, just a thought
| >>540429 My bad, I was sleepy it seems. I never said baka or anything cringy of the like and yet would be considered a weeb by general English speaking community for my hobbies. And I don't do cringe, you see. Not in a weeb way, at least. So it doesn't feel right and I would be offended were I directly to be called a weeb.
| >>540737 it's just one use of the term originally, I believe that's why wanabe is another use, not sure which was more popular at the time but I hear wanabe much more than white when taking about it's history
| >>540734 yeah no worries, not everyone feels this way but in my opinion weeb was overused when it was offensive to the point it just means someone who likes anime, like if you say "I watched one episode of Naruto" or something and that results in you getting called a weeb then it's not really offensive at that point it's just a name for the community almost imo
| >540737
Wibber
| >>38886e yea i kinda have an idea... had similar experiences
>>7f4752 i definetely learnt alot with this conversation between 572-sensei and 9be-chan btw
This thread by itself became one of the best and most engaged threads i've been in months, i guess it's because we're maybe suffering an invisible and slow-paced cultural crisis, where it's getting more toxic untill it kills itself
Like the UKF dubstep n' CoD fans, ye flux pavillion miss those times, but it's became trash so what
| I'm not ending the thread though! We've gotta find a solution, even if it means we becoming an army of itachis and destroying our own "clan" from inside out because it's starting to plan a way to bring chaos to us
| >>d1d357 what are we trying to find a solution to? A dying culture? I think it's pretty hard since trends seem to be getting further and further away from us. But maybe the release of anime like Evangelion on Netflix might help? It would be amazing for them to release lain and other anime like that on there aswell, because I have some friends who used to watch anime regularly, but now only watch something if it's on Netflix. Which is kinda sad imo
| Andrei Tarkovsky; one of the greatest cinema director's of all times said: "Every art form borns in response to a spiritual necessity of the times" so; anime is no exception. Art is drive by spirit, great works of art are food for the soul, and when the soul don't get his food; new things gonna show up. Moe y lolis are only a snack; not a well balanced nutrition.
| >>eccb80 I think we still get good animes tho, like made in abyss. But they are just few and far between
| The solution is to talk about the anime you think is good and fits most with the stuff you remember and to buy the Blu-ray and merch for it if it exists, if good shows make more money they'll be an incentive for them to make them.
That's actually the reason moe is super common people want to buy dakis and figurines if their waifus, so the just added more waifus
| >>c43870 well, it's any solution for the situation, not to prohibit those cringy shit as it is their way to live so screw dem nutellas
But to kinda... i don't know, i dont know how to express myself without being selfish
But at the core i'm just relieved i'm not alone, maybe this website and some others are the solution, keep the underground anime fans connected
| >>d1d357 yea, I really like the few of us that are still using danger/u/, I also really liked arisuchan.jp but thats even more dead than here.
| I'm a new millenium kid, and I hope you don't have too rough a time with the mainstream. I only recently discovered this place (thanks F-droid!) and if this is where I get to mouth off on what I saw in my school's anime club, here it is.
I tend to type long, sorry. Not used to length-limited conversations, so this is a two-poster.
| I went to the anime club in our school after watching things like GitS, Psychopass, Ergo Proxy and more recently Death note... I was not prepared for the mainstream anime I saw there. I mean I've watched things like Fruits Basket and Bleach but this was just different
I also watched Cowboy Bebop because who hasn't?
| Am I still within the reach of mainstream culture, or do I need some schooling by an oldie?
| Things come and go. Early 90's, Thrash was dead, but even it's seeing a revival.
Another route is like with anything popular, people will find it, people will love it, people will forget it. All we have to do is wait them out, and we're good.
Even if we don't, we have our memories, R/W, ROM, or otherwise.
In all honesty tho, I think it is more as what was said in >#537839 : we are being diluted.
(and apologies, I'm new here)
| >>1c509a i don't know, but maybe... if you are that's fine
>>ccad5e at least i don't feel alone anymore
>>51e560 das true, nevermind being new here g/u/rl
| >>541535
>>541603
Thank you both.
To add, something I keep forgetting is that as much as something may seem dead, it is not always. In many cases it is just hidden, sometime deliberately. If every small community was known about, then they would not be small, would they? With how mainstream likes to butcher stuff, some people want to just stay in their obscure site with its ~20 users, rather than the more chaotic high-pop sites. By extension, that makes it hard for us to see them.
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| Guys
i don't know about you, but since weeb stuff became mainstream, i see the cool neets from my childhood, the smart ones, that used to play idk castlevania, metroid, people like us, we are fading
The weebs from the late 10's are... nothing like before... i'm talking belle delphine shit, tik tok otakus...
I'm not saying they are bad and shouldn't exist, you can like what u want but... but its cringe af
At the same time, the ddr/danmaku/osu/grandia players, breakcore fans
Fading..