Post number #669898, ID: 0b1755
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I recently built a new PC for myself (a few months ago) and decided to put my knowledge to good use for once, and so I bought two HDDs spinning @7200RPM and used the UEFI/BIOS RAID controller that came with the motherboard, and I'm never buying a SDD ever again. These two bad boys running simulatenously are FASTER than any SSD on the market, even faster than the M.2 SSD they've been promoting for that same motherboard. Don't buy SSDs, rise above, get yourself a RAID controller.
Post number #669919, ID: f05800
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their lifetime is significantly shorter, they can also easily break if moved while turned on depending how mutch you care about the data you migth want to consider zfs or a diffrent raid setup. you are also talking fairy tales, the fastest drives are ~200mbps in absolutley ideal conditions. while most modern ssds at least double that in addition you can raid ssds
don't get me wrong I love to use hard drives their amazing piece of tech, also cheap but your over-hyping them
Post number #669923, ID: fc039c
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What sucks about RAID 9 is that if one drive dies you lose ALL the data
Post number #669937, ID: a14255
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I need that raid HDD benchmark supposedly faster than high end SSD
Post number #669954, ID: 0750c9
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>>669923 never heard abaranoout raid 9 in my life. - raid 0 for the reckless - raid 50 for the truly paranoid - raid 60 for the mentally ill
Post number #669978, ID: f05800
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>>669954 using any raid with 10+ drives is for the mentally ill
Post number #670152, ID: 0750c9
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>>669978 yeah but keep in mind the number is not the amount of drives, it's the raid configuration. In a RAID 60 (aka 6+0), more than half of your data is redundant.
Post number #670181, ID: 1f843c
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Any kind of RAID is completely unnecessary and a waste of electronics, money and time for any non-enterprise setup.
RAID is for assuring reliability in case of drive failures on stuff like datacenters which are SLA'd, not for looking at crystaldiskmark numbers.
Plus, if you really think that a raid 0 is faster than a ssd this means that your knowledge was not put for good use! A raw transfer rate on a raid 0 may even be faster, but access times will still be atrocious.
Post number #670278, ID: f05800
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>>670152 ok so if you channel your dominant inner asperger's: RAID 6: min 5 drives RAID 0: min 2 dirves and since you need 2x raid6 for raid 60 we get to do some fun multiplication that's rigth 2 times 5 is 10
now the point i was actually making is that raid is in general a simple solution for small scale that's easy to implement but for from effective so when working on a larger scale it's a shit pick
Post number #670604, ID: 0fe9d6
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OP here, I've got a feeling not a lot of you who commented acrually know what's a RAID array. First, HDDs are way more reliable and certainly last longer than a SSD, that's not even up to debate, a SSD has finite number of rewrites, AND corrupt data over time. A single SSD is faster, 2 HDDs in a RAID 0 is twice as fast as a single HDD, that's the point. If you're paranoid about losing your steam games just buy 2 more and set up a RAID 10. I've never had a HDD fail, ever.
Post number #670605, ID: 0fe9d6
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>>669919 And why are you even afraid of bumping your PC tower, to thw point of even mentioning it? Do you hump your computer or something?
Post number #670613, ID: 845fdf
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>raid 0 >in 2020 Go ssd, don't feel bad for your money, consider it as a long term investment (because it is). You'll thank me 3 years later. HDD is LITERALLY obsolete technology.
Post number #670614, ID: 845fdf
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>>670613 Wait, op wasn't even asking for advice, just read the op post. I highly doubt raid 0 7200 hdds are faster than a m.2 ssd. Even if they were, the disadvantages easily outweigh the advantages, maybe except cost. My point still stands, just buy an ssd and be done with it.
Post number #670615, ID: c9b837
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I knew solid state drives had amassed a cult following but I wasn't expecting such a fierce response, do you know what's a SSD? If you formatted yours in NTFS I pity you. It's just flash drive, that's all it is, an overpriced thumb drive.
Post number #670616, ID: 845fdf
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>>670604 >First, HDDs are way more reliable and certainly last longer than a SSD, that's not even up to debate, a SSD has finite number of rewrites, AND corrupt data over time. Wrong, wrong and wrong >set up a RAID 10 I thought we were talking about raid 0 >I've never had a HDD fail, ever. Thanks for the anecdotal evidence, unfortunately not very helpful.
Post number #670617, ID: 845fdf
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>>670615 >overpriced thumb drive. Except thumb drives cost more per gb and have lower speeds, obviously. Get an ssd and be done with it unless you're an enterprise user which I doubt would be lurking here.
Post number #670619, ID: c9b837
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Why is a thunb drive slower I wonder? Just plug it on your motherboard instead of a USB port and it's exactly the same. You're trying to find a way to be validated for spending so much money on internal thumb drives, that's all it is
Post number #670620, ID: 845fdf
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>>670619 Because the cooling's significantly worse, dummy.
Post number #670622, ID: c9b837
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What?? LOL You're all just coping, that's all it is, it's fun really, have fun smashing HDDs with sledgehammers once you're done crying. You're running your computers on thumb drives like console peasants and I'm the gigachad alpha predator using RAID, cope harder.
Post number #670623, ID: 845fdf
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Lmao imagine being ignorant, using obsolete technology AND being proud of it. Stay poor
Post number #670624, ID: c9b837
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Imagine coping that hard
Post number #670625, ID: 845fdf
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>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords Not going to argue with an underage.
Post number #670626, ID: 83fa57
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>>670619 thumb drives literally don't have dram you absolute tech-let
Post number #670627, ID: c9b837
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"Stop using obsolete technology I'm running Linux on my flaccid thumb drive and I got no response delay!" If that's the best you can bring to the table then OPs out. Do your research, look into RAID 0, 1, 10, and 5, and ASCEND.
Post number #670667, ID: 1f843c
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Gosh this place turned into the dumpster that 4chan /tech/ is
Post number #670722, ID: 0750c9
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and what if i bring a RAID 51 (parity + replication) to the area 51 raid?
Post number #670761, ID: a5a0e7
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>>670722 Hot damn g/u/rl
Post number #670882, ID: f05800
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>>670604 >feeling not a lot... yes and that feeling is what makes you a moron that just discovered raid and thinks their hot shit >longer than a SSD Avrage hdd life expectency is 4 years while a new pcie ssd is expected to be over 2 lifetimes if you're rewriting data 24/7
looking at the reast of the post i see you have ware unable/unwilling to comprehend the text above
look up bitrot it's decades older then flash memory making you're claims of data preservation utter bollocks
Post number #670883, ID: f05800
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>>670605 transport, maintnance, cases without padded drive bays, eathquakes, cases on tables, bumping the case. in conclusion my dear OP motion exists and it will inevitably happen to most ppls hdds
Post number #670885, ID: f05800
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>>670627 Linux was never mentioned it was said that ntfs is hot garbade which it is
and calling an SSD a "thumb drive" is like calling an HDD a "wire recording"
-> autistic & wrong
Post number #670889, ID: f05800
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>>670882 Actually looked it up aparently hdd faliure rate is actually ~15% at y4 which makes me unlucky i guess still comparing it to something like 9PBW of a pcie ssd it's simply cant compare that kind of ssd will outlive you
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| I recently built a new PC for myself (a few months ago) and decided to put my knowledge to good use for once, and so I bought two HDDs spinning @7200RPM and used the UEFI/BIOS RAID controller that came with the motherboard, and I'm never buying a SDD ever again. These two bad boys running simulatenously are FASTER than any SSD on the market, even faster than the M.2 SSD they've been promoting for that same motherboard.
Don't buy SSDs, rise above, get yourself a RAID controller.